Paramilitary 2 Earth Green Sprint Run

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I saw on Blade HQ there was a Paramilitary 2 earth green sprint run coming out with s35-vn steal, and i was wondering if anyone had some predictions on how the steal will perform if its worth the money? I saw some cutting test with the Native5 witch had the same steal ,and the native start to flatten. Will the same thing happen to the Paramilitary 2?
 
I doubt it. My use with S35VN in my Large Sebenza 21 did not turn up anything out of the ordinary. Haven't tried much cardboard with it though. If a problem occurs and the knife is not to your satisfaction, I believe Spyderco will have no problem refunding your purchase.
 
I have two S35VN sebenzas and a ZT 0550, no problems with the steel whatsoever.
 
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It's Earth Brown G10, not green. The green will be a new steel.

This.

The Forest Green one is going to be CTS-204P. The S35VN Para-2 is in S35VN (neither are out yet).

I'm assuming that you're talking about Ankerson's tests (JDavis882 on Youtube). Both S30V and S35VN are tool-steels, but neither is designed to be a high-end edge-retaining super steel.

I think the main point to walk away from those tests (which most folks seem to miss) is that with S35VN, it's all about edge-geometry. The S35VN blades that performed well in his tests had a 38-40+ degree edge on them. The Sebenza did perform poorly on the edge-stability test, but it's also an entire point softer on the Rockwell scale (and I want to say, 36 degree edge?).

The Microtech did well in Ankerson's test, but it had a 38 Degree edge and he left it at about a 600 grit toothy edge. The ZT 0550 also did well, but it had a thick edge also (right at 40 I think?). The Native 5 did perfectly well in the cutting portion of the test, but he experienced edge-flattening which basically kills edge-retention after going through a 10-15ft rope. The Native was originally at about a 30 degree edge on the first test, and he re-sharpened it to 36 degrees for the re-test - which it did better, but still experienced some flattening/rolling.

Some of that flattening was rolling - which can be taken care of with a ceramic stone/rod. Some of it was blunting which was a loss of metal and requires getting into course stones/rods.

From my perspective, it really doesn't matter. If I use my knives hard, it's not going to be cutting 10-15ft of hemp rope, it's going to be doing something hard enough that I'll have to get into the course stones afterward anyways, so it's no more of a pain to me than usual.

Keep in mind that the Native was never designed specifically as a "Hard Use" knife, but if you want the edge to last longer, you could always put a 40+ degree edge on it and leave it at about a 600 grit toothy edge.
 
S30V is more stainless, than tool steel. D2, M4, etc are more along the lines of tool steel. ;)
 
This.

The Forest Green one is going to be CTS-204P. The S35VN Para-2 is in S35VN (neither are out yet).

I'm assuming that you're talking about Ankerson's tests (JDavis882 on Youtube). Both S30V and S35VN are tool-steels, but neither is designed to be a high-end edge-retaining super steel.

I think the main point to walk away from those tests (which most folks seem to miss) is that with S35VN, it's all about edge-geometry. The S35VN blades that performed well in his tests had a 38-40+ degree edge on them. The Sebenza did perform poorly on the edge-stability test, but it's also an entire point softer on the Rockwell scale (and I want to say, 36 degree edge?).

The Microtech did well in Ankerson's test, but it had a 38 Degree edge and he left it at about a 600 grit toothy edge. The ZT 0550 also did well, but it had a thick edge also (right at 40 I think?). The Native 5 did perfectly well in the cutting portion of the test, but he experienced edge-flattening which basically kills edge-retention after going through a 10-15ft rope. The Native was originally at about a 30 degree edge on the first test, and he re-sharpened it to 36 degrees for the re-test - which it did better, but still experienced some flattening/rolling.

Some of that flattening was rolling - which can be taken care of with a ceramic stone/rod. Some of it was blunting which was a loss of metal and requires getting into course stones/rods.

From my perspective, it really doesn't matter. If I use my knives hard, it's not going to be cutting 10-15ft of hemp rope, it's going to be doing something hard enough that I'll have to get into the course stones afterward anyways, so it's no more of a pain to me than usual.

Keep in mind that the Native was never designed specifically as a "Hard Use" knife, but if you want the edge to last longer, you could always put a 40+ degree edge on it and leave it at about a 600 grit toothy edge.


JDavis isnt Ankerson..... hes CrimsonTideShooter just FYI
 
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