Patina not blocking surface rust ? PICS

worldwood

worldwood

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Any clue why i keep getting surface rust on my bk11? i patina'd it, the patina was quite obviously visible. i neautralized with baking soda once finished and washed it off and dried it. the next day surface rust, but only on the handle. so i cleaned the rust off with onions (google rusty knives and onions) and a little sandpaper. then i re applied a patina to the handle, this time letting the patina get deeper and darker. neautralized again washed and dried. still today surface rust and again only on the handle. i am not oiling it right now, on purpose i want to see the value of a patina, but i keep getting surface rust only on the handle. i touch the handle more so i assume the oil from my hand. but i thought the patina would block the surface rust. i patina with vinegar and mustard just like most. i have let it sit in a hot solution for an hour, i have let it sit in room temp solution for 4 hours, i still get surface rust and only on the handle. Any ideas why?


I am sending this off to K9-handler next week to be media blasted jimped and durocoated, this should solve the issue with rust on the handle but im still curious to know why the patina isnt working.


my wife has her camera at the moment, ill post a picture later on.
 
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My guess is that you have acidic hands. Do you drink a lot of coffee, by chance?

While a forced patina slows down the formation of rust, it does not prevent it, as evidence by your BK-11.
It would be nice if the knives came with some sort of coating or paint to protect it from rusting...:D

Just kidding.:D

A little wipe down of oil would probably do wonders to keep your handle from rusting, but it would probably make your handle slippery, too.
Have you tried a cord wrap?
 
I think a light coating of oil is what is needed. If you are going to use it for food prep find food safe mineral oil at the grocery store.
 
LMAO man tell me about it! thats why i didnt want to strip the handle but acetones a monster! Yes its cord wrapped, i see the rust in the "gaps" i guess youd say. And i dont drink coffee, at all. i drink alot of pepsi though, like (2) 2 liters a day, or a 12 pack of cans by myself. i love me my pepsi..... screw coke :)

I will no longer be stripping my beckers. i like the blade stripped better than coated for sure. i have found now that i spent some time with it stripped it does slice neater and cleaner and cleanup on the blade is easier but i tried last time only doing the blade and somehow even though the acetone was only touching the blade its like the epoxy soaked it in and it ran up the handle? as the handle coat just starting falling off. maybe kleenstrip would work better.

I have no problems oiling my knife after use, but i wanted to test the patina, it failed, ill clean it up again and oil it. then wait for its pimp job!
 
Patina's will rub off with use, new one's form. Rust is the beginning of a patina.

Think no more of this rust as a cancer, think of it more as a suntan on your skin.

Moose
 
Moose, are you saying its fine how it is? i dont need to get rid of it like its the plague?
 
If you don't have mineral oil, just use olive or veg oil. I find that right after patina, you might get a little surface rust, but use it a little and they become very resistant. In fact, I forgot to pull my bk9 out to dry after my last camping trip and a month later remembered and it was just fine. We had rain every day on that trip, so I was using it every day to baton wood to get to the dry stuff.
 
That is the beginning of a beautiful, dark brown/black patina. Oil it, wipe it, and move on.

Its not gonna rot away in your hand or in your lifetime, use it, and like I said, think of it like a suntan, you don't freak out and try to scrub your suntan off, you put on some aloe lotion and move on. Same thing here, only instead of aloe, use mineral oil, or Ballistol.

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Moose
 
Ok boss will do, thanks for the info! ill wipe her down with some oil and continue on lovin her none-the-less!
 
That's actually a pretty light patina. It could just be the camera but you want it to be really dark to get the most benefit from it. I'm curious as to what vinegar you're using. Straight white vinegar or something else?
 
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