Patina...

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So, yesterday I used my brand new grill for the first time. Matter of fact, this is my FIRST grill (recently began the married life), and I made the regular noob mistakes. Had to get GentleBen to help me out a bit over the phone. Regardless, finally got the temp where I needed it and got my steaks, corn and vegetables all nice and done up.

You KNOW I had to use my Cultie to cut the beef. Well, we were watching "Casino Royale" and I didn't jump up and wash the Cultie right away. Needless to say, when I DID get back into the kitchen to wash up a bit, there was noticeable patina on both sides of the blade. I washed the knife real well, dried it off, etc...Patina has this nice blue-ish color to it. Now this is probably gonna drive me crazy.

I know I could buff it out, but I'm wondering how many of you use satin blades, and of those of you who do, how many have blades with visible patina on them? Is it something that bothers you, or do you just let it slide? Remember, this is a user, not a safe-queen.
 
I consider the patina as a nice feature on knifes.
it adds to the look (imho), and a patina build-up protects the blade.
 
I used a quick and very light rubbing of NEVR-DULL to make my steak-duty Cultellus like new again.
 
I consider the patina as a nice feature on knifes.
it adds to the look (imho), and a patina build-up protects the blade.

How so? I would appreciate if you can explain this to me. I've heard of people actually wanting their satin blades to Patina, but I never knew it could be protective.
 
I like a nice patina also, but only on my carbon blades.

-Dan
 
I generally don't mind it. INFI patinas nicely. Have a OJ GW, Satin Meaner and Culti that have patina and I don't mind a bit. :thumbup:

I have a Fehrman that has some on it and it's not attractive at all. :(
 
leave it alone and quit interfering with the way of life.

now go do the right thing :thumbup:




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Turkey has put a patina on my INFI more than anything else. The traditional methods such as mustard or vinegar don't do much to INFI but look great on carbon steels.
A patina is a thin layer of semi-controlled oxidation that helps prevent destructive rust from taking place.
 
I've got some on my NICK that looks like a hamon in places.

I also get a bit of rusting so I gotta keep after that. Seriously. Just spots. But I wanna keep up with it.

My kitchen Cultie also has a nice CCH (color case hardened) looking patina on it. I like that look.
 
How so? I would appreciate if you can explain this to me. I've heard of people actually wanting their satin blades to Patina, but I never knew it could be protective.

It depends on the metal surface.

Some metals produce rusting (patina is a form of rust) that falls away easily. This is not a good behavior, since this allows the bulk of the metal to rust away quickly.

Other metals produce rust that is more tenacious, that clings to the surface. Provided the rust is not unattractive, this effectively protects the bulk of the material from further degradation. This is the sort of rust (patina) you're looking for ... and it appears to be the kind the Cultie experiences.

I'm of two minds. It's very easy to remove, but I do like the idea of protecting the surface through the patina. I've got a number of old carbon steel blades with various protective patinas on them.

Some forms of aluminum, for example, produce a very thin surface rust (patina) that clings tightly.
 
So you guys are saying that with INFI, patina's not such a big deal? Anything I should do to make sure the situation doesn't get any worse? All of my INFI is satin, so I'm sure I'll hafta deal with this forever...at least on these knives.

This isn't the first "how-to" session you've needed since getting married... ;)~

Remember that time I needed to know how to shave my ass without getting cut, and you sent that video tutorial of you shaving your back and shoulder hair?

http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/

:D:D:D
 
So you guys are saying that with INFI, patina's not such a big deal? Anything I should do to make sure the situation doesn't get any worse? All of my INFI is satin, so I'm sure I'll hafta deal with this forever...at least on these knives.



Remember that time I needed to know how to shave my ass without getting cut, and you sent that video tutorial of you shaving your back and shoulder hair?

http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/

:D:D:D

Just keep 'em oiled and remember to clean them after each use.

I have one GW (satin) and one Cultie (also satin) that have the bluish patina. As an experiment, I'm letting that patina stay. We'll see how it develops over time. It's so thin I'm sure it could easily be removed (as others have indicated).
 
What do you use to oil, J? So far, I've used a silicon gun cloth, but I also have mineral oil. The Cultie will be mostly a kitchen/steak knife, while the warden will be a utility EDC. Since I'm all-satin so far, does anyone have any suggestions?
 
What do you use to oil, J? So far, I've used a silicon gun cloth, but I also have mineral oil. The Cultie will be mostly a kitchen/steak knife, while the warden will be a utility EDC. Since I'm all-satin so far, does anyone have any suggestions?

You ought to get a host of good ideas to your question.

I have an enormous supply of clove oil -- a happy 'extra' after the purchase of some Japanese swords and blade some time ago. It has an interesting aroma and does a fine job.

I've also used mineral oil and even Ren Wax (on occasion).

They all work just fine.
 
Clove oil sounds like fun for kitchen knives...going to go hunt some down on the intertubes....Thanks OldPhysics. :)
 
Clove oil sounds like fun for kitchen knives...going to go hunt some down on the intertubes....Thanks OldPhysics. :)

It is!

It's also pretty traditional for your big Japanese zombie-killer. Whoosh! Off with their heads!!! :eek:

...and then they'll smell slightly better.

Hmm. I may have been corresponding with youngsters a bit too much.;)
 
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