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I LIKE ALL CAPS---I'M NOT YELLING
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I TESTED 3 KNIVES -BOTH IN MY BACKYARD YESTERDAY AS WELL AS IN MY GARAGE THIS MORNING
I'M NOT COMPARING THEM TO EACH OTHER--
JUST GIVING THE RESULTS AS THEY WERE OBTAINED.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE KNIVES:
A PATTON UTILITY-FORGED 01(THIS KNIFE)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461032
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A NEW(TO ME) -BUSSE "HELL RAZOR"(MY FIRST BUSSE)-OBTAINED THIS WEEK-VERY GOOD CONDITION.EDGE LOOKED NEW.STANDARD SIZE GRIPS.
6 PHOTOS OF BOTH
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5030034
TOOK THE GREEN PARACORD OFF THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD INSTALLED.
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LAST WAS A RANGER RD-6 THAT BILL SIEGLE RE-PROFILED/RE-SHARPENED THE EDGE AND SCOTT TANGUAY MODIFIED THE GRIPS--
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THIS WAS NOT A BEAT IT UNTIL IT BREAKS TEST
THIS WAS A "WHICH KNIFE CUTS/CHOPS BETTER TEST"
I AM NOT NEAR AS QUALIFIED AS CLIFF IS--THESE ARE JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.
I DO HAVE 36 YEARS MARTIAL ARTS EXPERIENCE AND AM QUITE QUALIFIED TO EXPRESS OPINIONS ON HOW WELL A KNIFE CUTS FROM A "FIGHTING OR KILLING" POINT OF VIEW(ALTHOUGH GETTING IN A KNIFE FIGHT IS THE LAST THING I WOULD EVER WANT TO DO)...
AS FAR AS CHOPPING---(WOOD AND CARDBOARD TUBING)
#1:HELL RAZOR WON THAT CONTEST.IT'S THE LONGEST AND HAS A VERY COMFORTABLE HANDLE.(STANDARD).ACCURACY WAS LAST-BUT THAT WAS DUE TO IT BEING THE LONGEST.AND I'M TAKING ABOUT 1/4" DIFFERENCE IN THE CUTS..
#2-PATTON.VERY SHARP-EASY TO CONTROL.TENDED TO WEDGE ITSELF DUE TO THIN BLADE.MOST ACCURATE(SHORTEST BLADE)-VERY COMFORTABLE HANDLE.
#3: RANGER RD-6.IT CHOPPED ABOUT AS WELL AS THE PATTON BUT THE HANDLE STARTS TO "STING" AFTER 20 OR SO CHOPS.I TOLD SCOTT I WANTED THE KNIFE GRIP TO BE "SECURE" IN MY HAND--AND IT IS "OUTSTANDING" IN RETENTION.
AS FAR AS SLICING (APPLES,HARD STYROFOAM,T-SHIRT TARGET)
#1
ATTON-MOST ACCURATE-EASIEST TO CONTROL(ALSO THE SMALLEST).RAZOR SHARP BLADE MATED TO A EASY TO CONTROL HANDLE.FAR AND AWAY THE BEST OF THE 3.
#2: RANGER RD-6(WITH BILL SIEGLE'S EDGE).BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE PATTON.BLADE IS 1/4" THICK AND MUCH HARDER TO MAKE CONTROLLED CUTS.
#3:BUSSE "HELL RAZOR".IT'S THE LONGEST.WORST ON APPLES AND SLICING CARDBOARD(THICKEST EDGE).
THE EDGES OF THE OTHER 2 ARE MUCH THINNER/ SHARPER.(I GOT EACH AS SHARP AS I CAN ON A SHARPMAKER)
EACH CAN SHAVE HAIR OFF MY ARM(-BUSSE TAKES THE MOST EFFORT)
ERGONOMICS---
THE PATTON'S GRIP IS LARGE AND HAND FILLING."FEELS" LARGE WHEN I'M HOLDING IT STATIONARY-BUT THAT "FEELING" GOES AWAY WHEN I'M USING IT TO CUT SOMETHING AND IS REPLACED WITH THE FEELING--"DAMN THIS KNIFE CUTS WELL"-
BALANCE IS MORE TOWARDS THE HANDLE.LOOKS MORE LIKE A RACE CAR THAN A TRUCK.
IS MARKETED AS A "UTILITY KNIFE"--AND CAN BE USED AS AN OUTDOOR KNIFE,KITCHEN KNIFE,HUNTING KNIFE AND FIGHTING KNIFE WITH ABOUT EQUAL EFFECT.
BLADE STAINS EASILY--BUT STAYS SHARP...EVER WANTED TO TRY A FORGED BLADE?THIS IS THE MAKER TO GET IT FROM HAND'S DOWN-ESPECIALLY FACTORING IN COST.($175.00)
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THE RANGER'S GRIP(MODIFIED BY SCOTT TANGUAY) IS VERY VERY COMFORTABLE AND LOCKS THE KNIFE IN YOUR HAND.NOT GOOD FOR EXTENDED CHOPPING WITHOUT GLOVES.EXCELLENT FOR RETENTION AND CONTROL.
IT'S GOOD POINT'S ARE IT'S RAZOR SHARP BILL SIEGLE EDGE AND SCOTT'S GRIP.(IT IS ALSO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE).WOULD HAVE RATED LAST IN IT'S ORIGINAL STATE.
LOOKS LIKE A BEAT UP TRUCK-AND FEELS LIKE A BAR OF METAL COMPARED TO THE OTHER 2(GRIP IS EXCELLENT-I'M REFERRING TO HOW THE KNIFE FEELS ONCE YOU PICK IT UP).USED AS A MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING KNIFE TO HIT SOFT AND HARD TARGETS.GOOD KNIFE TO LEAVE IN YOUR TRUCK OR B.O.B.
IF YOU GET ONE(RANGER)-SEND IT TO BILL SIEGLE FIRST-AND THEN TO SCOTT TANGUAY.
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THE BUSSE "HELL RAZOR".
I'M GOING TO SEND THIS TO BILL SIEGLE AND HAVE HIM PUT ONE OF HIS FAMOUS RAZOR EDGES ON IT--THEN I'LL RE-TEST IT.
IT IS THE BEST "FIGHTING" KNIFE OF THE 3-AND HAS ONE OF THE BEST KNIFE "GRIP" ERGONOMICS I'VE EVER FELT.EASY TO CHANGE GRIPS AND KNIFE "FLOWS" THE BEST WHILE DOING THE KNIFE CUT DRILLS.
IT CAN BE HELD BOTH "UP CLOSE" AND HELD TOWARDS THE POMMEL FOR INCREASED CHOPPING ABILITY AS WELL.
THESE STANDARD GRIPS FEEL GOOD TO ME AND THE KNIFE IS BALANCED MORE LIKE A FIGHTER THAN A CHOPPER
IT'S A GREAT COMBAT KNIFE FOR SURE---ONE WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO DAMAGE IT AT ALL.
LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT BACK FROM BILL SIEGLE AND RE-TESTING IT.------------------------.
SEE PHOTOS -OF KNIVES,CARDBOARD TUBING(1/2" THICK),AND BOXES.(3 CUTS ON THE BOX WITH EACH KNIFE)
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5042668
AGAIN--THIS WAS JUST MY LITTLE HOUR LONG TEST--
-YOUR RESULTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SAME OR EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.....
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS-FELL FREE TO ASK!!!
DR.BILL
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I TESTED 3 KNIVES -BOTH IN MY BACKYARD YESTERDAY AS WELL AS IN MY GARAGE THIS MORNING
I'M NOT COMPARING THEM TO EACH OTHER--
JUST GIVING THE RESULTS AS THEY WERE OBTAINED.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE KNIVES:
A PATTON UTILITY-FORGED 01(THIS KNIFE)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461032
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A NEW(TO ME) -BUSSE "HELL RAZOR"(MY FIRST BUSSE)-OBTAINED THIS WEEK-VERY GOOD CONDITION.EDGE LOOKED NEW.STANDARD SIZE GRIPS.
6 PHOTOS OF BOTH
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5030034
TOOK THE GREEN PARACORD OFF THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD INSTALLED.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LAST WAS A RANGER RD-6 THAT BILL SIEGLE RE-PROFILED/RE-SHARPENED THE EDGE AND SCOTT TANGUAY MODIFIED THE GRIPS--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THIS WAS NOT A BEAT IT UNTIL IT BREAKS TEST
THIS WAS A "WHICH KNIFE CUTS/CHOPS BETTER TEST"
I AM NOT NEAR AS QUALIFIED AS CLIFF IS--THESE ARE JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.
I DO HAVE 36 YEARS MARTIAL ARTS EXPERIENCE AND AM QUITE QUALIFIED TO EXPRESS OPINIONS ON HOW WELL A KNIFE CUTS FROM A "FIGHTING OR KILLING" POINT OF VIEW(ALTHOUGH GETTING IN A KNIFE FIGHT IS THE LAST THING I WOULD EVER WANT TO DO)...
AS FAR AS CHOPPING---(WOOD AND CARDBOARD TUBING)
#1:HELL RAZOR WON THAT CONTEST.IT'S THE LONGEST AND HAS A VERY COMFORTABLE HANDLE.(STANDARD).ACCURACY WAS LAST-BUT THAT WAS DUE TO IT BEING THE LONGEST.AND I'M TAKING ABOUT 1/4" DIFFERENCE IN THE CUTS..
#2-PATTON.VERY SHARP-EASY TO CONTROL.TENDED TO WEDGE ITSELF DUE TO THIN BLADE.MOST ACCURATE(SHORTEST BLADE)-VERY COMFORTABLE HANDLE.
#3: RANGER RD-6.IT CHOPPED ABOUT AS WELL AS THE PATTON BUT THE HANDLE STARTS TO "STING" AFTER 20 OR SO CHOPS.I TOLD SCOTT I WANTED THE KNIFE GRIP TO BE "SECURE" IN MY HAND--AND IT IS "OUTSTANDING" IN RETENTION.
AS FAR AS SLICING (APPLES,HARD STYROFOAM,T-SHIRT TARGET)
#1
ATTON-MOST ACCURATE-EASIEST TO CONTROL(ALSO THE SMALLEST).RAZOR SHARP BLADE MATED TO A EASY TO CONTROL HANDLE.FAR AND AWAY THE BEST OF THE 3.#2: RANGER RD-6(WITH BILL SIEGLE'S EDGE).BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE PATTON.BLADE IS 1/4" THICK AND MUCH HARDER TO MAKE CONTROLLED CUTS.
#3:BUSSE "HELL RAZOR".IT'S THE LONGEST.WORST ON APPLES AND SLICING CARDBOARD(THICKEST EDGE).
THE EDGES OF THE OTHER 2 ARE MUCH THINNER/ SHARPER.(I GOT EACH AS SHARP AS I CAN ON A SHARPMAKER)
EACH CAN SHAVE HAIR OFF MY ARM(-BUSSE TAKES THE MOST EFFORT)
ERGONOMICS---
THE PATTON'S GRIP IS LARGE AND HAND FILLING."FEELS" LARGE WHEN I'M HOLDING IT STATIONARY-BUT THAT "FEELING" GOES AWAY WHEN I'M USING IT TO CUT SOMETHING AND IS REPLACED WITH THE FEELING--"DAMN THIS KNIFE CUTS WELL"-
BALANCE IS MORE TOWARDS THE HANDLE.LOOKS MORE LIKE A RACE CAR THAN A TRUCK.
IS MARKETED AS A "UTILITY KNIFE"--AND CAN BE USED AS AN OUTDOOR KNIFE,KITCHEN KNIFE,HUNTING KNIFE AND FIGHTING KNIFE WITH ABOUT EQUAL EFFECT.
BLADE STAINS EASILY--BUT STAYS SHARP...EVER WANTED TO TRY A FORGED BLADE?THIS IS THE MAKER TO GET IT FROM HAND'S DOWN-ESPECIALLY FACTORING IN COST.($175.00)
-------------------------------
THE RANGER'S GRIP(MODIFIED BY SCOTT TANGUAY) IS VERY VERY COMFORTABLE AND LOCKS THE KNIFE IN YOUR HAND.NOT GOOD FOR EXTENDED CHOPPING WITHOUT GLOVES.EXCELLENT FOR RETENTION AND CONTROL.
IT'S GOOD POINT'S ARE IT'S RAZOR SHARP BILL SIEGLE EDGE AND SCOTT'S GRIP.(IT IS ALSO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE).WOULD HAVE RATED LAST IN IT'S ORIGINAL STATE.
LOOKS LIKE A BEAT UP TRUCK-AND FEELS LIKE A BAR OF METAL COMPARED TO THE OTHER 2(GRIP IS EXCELLENT-I'M REFERRING TO HOW THE KNIFE FEELS ONCE YOU PICK IT UP).USED AS A MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING KNIFE TO HIT SOFT AND HARD TARGETS.GOOD KNIFE TO LEAVE IN YOUR TRUCK OR B.O.B.
IF YOU GET ONE(RANGER)-SEND IT TO BILL SIEGLE FIRST-AND THEN TO SCOTT TANGUAY.
---------------
THE BUSSE "HELL RAZOR".
I'M GOING TO SEND THIS TO BILL SIEGLE AND HAVE HIM PUT ONE OF HIS FAMOUS RAZOR EDGES ON IT--THEN I'LL RE-TEST IT.
IT IS THE BEST "FIGHTING" KNIFE OF THE 3-AND HAS ONE OF THE BEST KNIFE "GRIP" ERGONOMICS I'VE EVER FELT.EASY TO CHANGE GRIPS AND KNIFE "FLOWS" THE BEST WHILE DOING THE KNIFE CUT DRILLS.
IT CAN BE HELD BOTH "UP CLOSE" AND HELD TOWARDS THE POMMEL FOR INCREASED CHOPPING ABILITY AS WELL.
THESE STANDARD GRIPS FEEL GOOD TO ME AND THE KNIFE IS BALANCED MORE LIKE A FIGHTER THAN A CHOPPER
IT'S A GREAT COMBAT KNIFE FOR SURE---ONE WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO DAMAGE IT AT ALL.
LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT BACK FROM BILL SIEGLE AND RE-TESTING IT.------------------------.
SEE PHOTOS -OF KNIVES,CARDBOARD TUBING(1/2" THICK),AND BOXES.(3 CUTS ON THE BOX WITH EACH KNIFE)
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5042668
AGAIN--THIS WAS JUST MY LITTLE HOUR LONG TEST--
-YOUR RESULTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SAME OR EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.....
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS-FELL FREE TO ASK!!!
DR.BILL
