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PB&J....... what blade combo is your bread and butter?

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While I am the first to admit that carrying a single bladed slip joint is well, a pleasure. The main draw and advantage to traditionals in my opinion is the versatility of more then one blade. If executed correctly it can be thin and pocket friendly or you can find examples of knives designed for work with plump handles and more resilient materials if you wish. Traditional knives give you variety and an opportunity to find that one all around knife or that perfect knife for each task you tackle. Today I am interested in hearing about that all-a-rounder!

I go back and forth and for most of my edc needs, a single bladed wharncliffe knife is usually all I need. Some days though I come across tasks that take a cutting tool with a more robust tip to accomplish, removing old caulking from backsplashes, tubs or cabinets comes to mind. The other day I knew ahead of time what I was in for on a job and carried along my Hay'n Helper with its stout sheepsfoot blade to help me remove a bunch of splash from a tub. It worked great and the tip is still intact. This situation has got me thinking about the what ifs.

What if all I had on me that day was my viper? Not knowing what I am up against a lot when I show up to a job, this is a genuine possibility. Try as I might, personally, it is hard for me to stick to a 2 knife carry. I think the Hay'n helper is going to find a new resting place in my toolbag because it is a great workhorse and solves most of my issues. Still I cant help but think about one knife that can tackle everything.

No matter the frame, what size you prefer or handle material. The one thing every knife has in common is a blade and for this little thread, I want to focus on the combination of two blades. It also does not matter if its a jack or pen setup. I am interested in what you feel is a very good combo and why? If you could have any two blades made to be used in a knife, what would they be? For example, you may use your knife every day to spread jam on toast for breakfast or prep that fresh salad. Maybe through experimenting you like a little thicker spear point for this. You also find yourself cutting up boxes and cleaning fingernails but prefer more control in a shorter blade for such work. Well you get the point :)

I have been making my own observations this week and have switched back to my Eureka moose because of its blade combination. While comparing some attributes I noticed some extreme similarities with the clip blade and my wharncliffed viper. Look at the points being overlaid...



Kind of a :stupid: moment. That nice tip is almost identical from clip to wharnie and in retrospect the wharncliffe is simply put a clip turned upside down. The needle point is very useful but not always desired and the clip gives it some protection without losing this feature. While that's a great feature to share the clip blade fails miserably in a slipjoint as a piercer compared to the wharncliffe. By flipping the clip and creating the wharncliffe the tip drops well below the center point in the blades geometry. By getting the belly out of the way it creates a blade that excels at piercing and loses little in slicing tasks. The sheepsfoot blade profile really showcases what a straight edge knife should be in my opinion. You lose the big concern of tip breakage from the wharncliffe but retain all the usefulness of the straight edge. The tip still has no belly in its way and pierces packages and cardboard just as well.

For now I find the clip and sheepsfoot to be a dynamic duo. From use I know they can tackle 100% of my tasks. Still debating on what that perfect length and blade thickness should be. Interested in hearing what is working for others :)
 
My #47 Viper with a warncliff blade can do just a bout everything I need it to do. I have a #55 Houndstooth with a warncliff blade but it is smaller and limiting. Good thread. :thumbup:
 
Although I switch them up all the time, I always have at least one curved and one straight edge. Be it a stockman, a whittler, wharncliffe trapper, SBJ, congress, or Hawbaker muskrat. I do have a couple single-blade straight edges I carry since I also carry a SAK in my other pocket, but if it has 2 or more blades, one is curved and one is straight.
 
Although I switch them up all the time, I always have at least one curved and one straight edge. Be it a stockman, a whittler, wharncliffe trapper, SBJ, congress, or Hawbaker muskrat. I do have a couple single-blade straight edges I carry since I also carry a SAK in my other pocket, but if it has 2 or more blades, one is curved and one is straight.

Same here. Usually a WT but always at least one curved edge and one straight edge blade.
 
Only a spear point blade but with tools that do more than they were designed for.

I've pulled tacks and small nails with the can opener/screwdriver. It works great for digging out old window caulking and getting under the rubber of car windows to fix/replace them. Also perfect for hooking hot wire pot handles around the campfire.

The caplifter/screwdriver adjusts the gas system on my rifle, jimmies my old screen door when it "slam locks" and is useful bending heavy wire (wire stripper notch)

The awl excels at opening packages (cuts the tape but not into the box), digging/scraping stickers out my boot soles, scraping a Swedish firesteel and holds my cigar nub perfectly.

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Tough and impervious to weather extremes. it needs very little maintenance. It fits me perfectly if I can only carry one knife.
 
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I always have my ALOX Electrician in my pocket which has a decent spear blade. And I have a Case Sodbuster Jr. CV with jigged bone handles coming in today. Can't wait to try that one out, it seems they are well liked knives.

-Mark
 
That Alox looks well loved, much better for the wear :). I have an Alox farmer and have tried carrying that along with my houndstooth. Great knives indeed but truth be told I tend to forget I have it in my back pocket. I usually have the full sized tool within reach at work or in the garage when tinkering. No knock to its usability and love how multi purpose it is. Just don't use it when I have it.

Mark, you have great taste in straight edged knives. I own the same :)




Aaron, Gary, I share your sentiment. It seems that we are not alone from my reading around here. It also seems odd that this is not picked up on by modern manufacturer's. The over abundance of double bellied knives is tiresome and redundant. I get the history aspect but times are a changin. I have noticed a nice influx of knives that meet the belly/straight combo but for some reason it is mostly spear and coping or wharncliffe and tiny pen. Lets see some clips paired with sheepsfoots or long sheepsfoots paired with a little drop point or spey. Sometimes its refreshing to see the wheel reinvented so to speak.
 
For many years, my favorite blade shapes have been the drop point and spear point. In a single blade knife, they have been very useful and sturdy. But I have come around to the utility of multi-blade knives more recently. I appreciate the functionality of the sheepsfoot in combination with something more pointed and having a little belly to it, like the clip blade on the Stockman and associated patterns or the pen blade (mini-spear point?) on a Congress. The Wharncliffe looks like it should be able to combine both functions but the tip is too fragile to qualify as my all around most useful blade.
 
Jeff, my problems boils down to over thinking:) I really liked your two knife carry thread and showed options there. I'm like you and work in the trades. Honestly, my Clip/Pen Barlow can do it all. Although I really like my EZ open Scout with Sheepfoot/Pen combo:thumbup:

I really like the versatility/strength of the Sheepfoot;) The pen handles most everything else.

Paul
 
To say I over think things, especially knives, is an understatement ;).

Give me a single wharnie or spear. I could make do the rest of my life. Guess as an enthusiast of sharp things I am always looking for something new to peak my interest. While my buying has slowed to a crawl, my dreaming has not. I never mean to knock anyone else's choices or style. My passion overtakes my poor writing skills and I love to talk about it. You know its bad when your coworker starts asking you what knife did you decide on today :rolleyes:.

The Scout model you speak of looks most useful my friend. I have no excuse for not liking the pen blade, for some reason I just don't. One day I will get to the bottom of it or at the least, acquire a few fine knives with an attempt to figure it out :)
 
Jeff, we are ALOT alike:D I understand the pen blade concern. Just lastnight I was trying to justify to myself the #66 Moose...If I buy that one that should cover all the base and then I'm done:p

Oh if it were that simple;)

Paul
 
My daily life really doesn't create a "need" for any particular knife shape. Something relatively sharp and relatively small does pretty much all I need to do. But to the point of your question:

My dream knife would be a medium jack with a clip main and a straight-edged secondary, something of a cross between a sheepsfoot and a coping blade.

GEC got real close with their Eureka Jack, but I don't like their spear main. The mod that Jeff (Black Mamba) did makes that knife almost perfect.
 
I like a spear point for the main blade and a pen blade combo. Pretty much what you find in SAK's and Canoes and I like them on opposite sides of each other just like those knives as well. Don't know why I am biased towards the spear point but it just works.
 
a fantasy configuration
so no one gets confused, this is just two knives sitting on top of each other.
But I would prefer the Sheepfoot to have a pile side pull, and for it to be dropped lower in the pocket, so it matches the spear's spine... pure fantasy

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I also think the Eureka with long pull spear and coping secondary is a winning combo
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Jeff, we are ALOT alike:D I understand the pen blade concern. Just lastnight I was trying to justify to myself the #66 Moose...If I buy that one that should cover all the base and then I'm done:p

Oh if it were that simple;)

Paul

:)

Glad im not alone
 
I have had an ideal combo in mind for a while now but had not known what it was called, until recently. The Hawbaker Muskrat fits the bill for me. I would, however prefer it to be a single spring to make it thin and more pocket friendly. Now I gotta find one.

Chris
 
If I had to pick from my small stable of traditionals it would have to be the 92 Eureka Jack. The Speer/Coping combo is ideal to me and the 92 pattern is just outstanding.

When new...
 
A nice clip and a sheepsfoot does it for me. Although a spear like that on the first #15's and a sheepsfoot would also work just fine.
 
Barlow single Sheepfoot for me. I wasn't sure if I would like the Sheepfoot when I first bought it but I'm glad I did.
 
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