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coastalcop

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The question is at the end ;)

I have been reading several posts here that detail the negative response that some get for carrying what I would consider a reasonable wilderness tool (ie a larger knife).

I dont know about you but I rehandled my becker bk7 with blaze orange g-10scales from knifemaker supply. It took me about two hours so far (I have the right shape now I just want to handsand to get everything on the level) and now i have a MUCH more "pc" looking tool. If asked I can refer to it as one of my search and rescue tools. This also makes it easier to find in the camp should it fall out, and makes me easier to see on the trail.

Of course most of my gear has blaze orange paracord wrap, or lanyards at the zipper pulls. I WANT to be seen in tha majority of survival situations (I am not trying to dodge "charlie" or play ninja) so this doesnt affect anything negatively from a survival standpoint.

Yeah I know we shouldnt have to be "pc" we should have equal rights and all that. Believe me I wish that was the case, but the reality is that to avoid attention this can be the easiest way to deflect attention.

Lastly I have been looking at changing out my BK7 for one of the Tactools to get around the "Pointy thingy" and place it more firmly into the realm of "Tool", from your position what am I losing from a survival standpoint by going to the flat chisel point?? It doesnt really matter about size etc. (I am exempted from those provisions of law anyway) but just like you I prefer not to make waves among the unprepared when I dont have to.

Thanks
 
First of all why are you so worried about what others will think of your choice in carry for the wild?

The TacTool is a sharpened prybar IMO (of course) not without merit in warzones and places where your food is air dropped to you. In terms of what you lose on the trail, whittling, delicate operations, gutting fish will not be fun. I love a big knife (I usually carry an 8" bowie shaped beast or a BK9) but also carry a SAK for those times when bigger is not better.

I am sure someone else can tow the line for the positive on a tactool but I just don't see it for everyday wilderness environments.
 
I've no experience with the Tak Tool, but if you're worried about the sheeple, I recently read a thread on the Russian military shovel that passes well as a tool, but can still chop very well, and is used by the Russians as a weapon too.
 
I have never been hassled in th ewoods for any of my bladeware. Rangers have expressed that they'd rather not have me chop down any live trees when the see a hatchet or large chopper strapped to my pack, but that was about it. Other hikers may look at you a little funny, mostly because they think even a tiny SAK is too much knife, but no biggie.
 
Me personally I dont care all thqat much, but I have seen several posts here that indicate that folks are having problems because of the sheeple.

I also carry a SAK in the pouch for fine work as it is, and I cant say that the BK7 doesnt also fit the sharpened prybar description as well.

I could find additional use for the TAC TOOL on raids (and that would make it tax deductable SCORE !!! :cool: ) I think I just answered my own question.

Thanks folks
 
I haven't had any trouble with sheeple in my neck of the woods. Rangers around here just want you to pick up after yourself and not cut live growth, they couldn't care less how much deadwood you chop up, or with what. I tend towards traditional-looking knives, that may be in my favor. On the other hand, I don't stalk around the woods picking my teeth with my Bowie and growling, either :D

If orange scales give you some peace of mind in this regard, go for it. They're certainly practical as you said. After seeing some knives decked out in orange in pics here, I was somewhat surprised that they actually look pretty darn cool, too.
 
coastalcop said:
Me personally I dont care all thqat much, but I have seen several posts here that indicate that folks are having problems because of the sheeple.

I also carry a SAK in the pouch for fine work as it is, and I cant say that the BK7 doesnt also fit the sharpened prybar description as well.

I could find additional use for the TAC TOOL on raids (and that would make it tax deductable SCORE !!! :cool: ) I think I just answered my own question.

Thanks folks
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I think you do care if you're changing all your handles to dayglo and posting in a public forum. Beside the point your a cop, with that handy fact in tow you can carry whatever you want to without reprecussion.

So what is the deal here?
 
The Chef said:
So what is the deal here?
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Maybe he's not really a cop, but a clever PC shill trying to slowly indoctrinate us to think that way!

Doubtful.

Maybe I will make and carry a camp knife with orange scales just to irritate the anti-PC'ers!! How ironic would that be? ;)
 
CC, I say take with you what you want and what you are comfortable using. if you are worried about negative reactions from folks at the campgrounds, out in the woods, wherever, stow the knife in a pack, and bring it out only when you need it.

As for the Becker TacTool, it has probably been one of my most used edged tools over the last 5 years or so. It goes on every trip, regardless of where I am going and what else I am taking. I take that back. I have left it at home on a few 1-2 night minimalist-type trips. While not good at fine detail carving, the TacTool will whittle tent/tarp stakes with ease (I have reprofiled the long edge on mine) and it'll take a baton all day like nobody's business. It isn't the best chopper by a long shot, but it'll chop if you need it to. Wood chisel? Yep. Pry bar? sure, but the overall length does limit this capability a bit. Not pointy point to worry about breaking, either. I do love the TacTool.

My TacTool still dons it's all black tactical garb, which is also seen in some circles by some folks as a look that strikes fear into the hearts of sheeples. But I don't worry about that. Again, whenever I carry, I usually stow it in a pack. Rarely will I wear anything beyond a Leatherman or a neck knife.

Carry what you like, like what you carry.
 
I will speak SLOWLY, I posted in a public forum BECAUSE I noticed this concern ON THIS FORUM as posted by several people, and wished to offer an option to them that might lower the profile as a knife and accentuate a profile as a tool. It is an unfortunate fact that the bunnyhuggers dont like

EVIL black rifles, pistols, or knives, BUT something hi-vis cant be evil :jerkit:

I rehandled because I wanted something higher visability, and because I wanted to play with g-10.

You are right, I can carry what I like here because the nonapplicability statute was made for us, However even though I COULD hike with my M4 or my Glock strapped to my hip, I still usually carry something smaller (Kahr) because it saves me the explaining (and a substantial amount of weight )
 
coastalcop said:
I will speak SLOWLY...
You are right, I can carry what I like here because the nonapplicability statute was made for us, However even though I COULD hike with my M4 or my Glock strapped to my hip, I still usually carry something smaller (Kahr) because it saves me the explaining (and a substantial amount of weight )
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Thanks for clarifying and typing slowly, those of us without a badge sometimes find it hard to keep up with mandated logic.

Good luck with your colorful choice of knives along the trails, hopefully your keen wits and gun will do the job of keeping you out of harms way. :p
 
Chef, I am not going to enter into a battle of wits or a pissing contest with you..... unarmed opponents bore me ;) hope you have a wonderful, peachy keen, short order kind of day :p

That aside, I cant understand your logic that a BK9 or other bowie has a place in the wild ( as noted by your first post here) and a tactool wouldnt?? Could you please enlighten me on this subject, the logic evades me
 
Coastalcop -

Thanks for the info. I appreciate going the extra mile to put people at ease - just because you can carry something doesn't mean you should. There's a time and place for the FULL ON HIGH SPEED TACTICAL MOFO look, but day to day operations go smoother if people aren't spastic at your approach. Besides, if you need a knife to freak people out, you're probably not doing something right ;)
 
Coastal, I think that anytime a group of people spend a lot of time together, they take on a particular mindset. At this particular part of Bladeforums, many like large knives, thinking that they can chop as well as cut, but they also like the idea of being able to butcher, filet, etc. That being the case, they prefer knives with a much thinner edge, and do not see any use for those designed primarily as an urban tool with a thicker edge. It really just depends on your uses for a particular knife, and whether or not you pair it with another one that has other, finer, uses.
 
Thanks for the insight, yeah I tend to think of the bigger blades as choppers and carry a SAK for fine work.

But hey I can always cover up my blaze orange scales with hockey tape when I wanna fit in to the toughguy monsterknife crowd ;) that was humor for those that missed it, had visions of pairing up with Gecko45 at the mall (if you need an explainantion see glocktalk, and probably here too for mall ninja)
 
coastalcop said:
Chef, I am not going to enter into a battle of wits or a pissing contest with you..... unarmed opponents bore me ;) hope you have a wonderful, peachy keen, short order kind of day :p

That aside, I cant understand your logic that a BK9 or other bowie has a place in the wild ( as noted by your first post here) and a tactool wouldnt?? Could you please enlighten me on this subject, the logic evades me
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I am sorry sir, I will give you the answer you are accustomed to...thanks for the advice sir, I'll just be on my way.

If I see a guy in the woods with an orange handled tactool and a KAHR stuffed in his fannypack, I'll be sure to say hi.

I was just pulling on your chain a little, sorry to get you worked up over dayglo.

Peace.
 
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