Peanut with a bail?

Kohai999

Kohai999

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Was reading the other day about pocket watches and there are single chains and double chains.

The article indicated that a knife was often worn on the other chain. I was thinking that a peanut would be the perfect incarnation of said knife, and have a carried Case select in stag that I am going to drill out a hole in the rear bolster, and make a bail for it.

Has the peanut model ever been offered with a bail?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I was meaning the two blade peanut, but that is good information, thank you!

For my modification, I'll drill the hole below the pin holding it on, probably a mite bit bigger than 1/16", and run a stainless rod through, that will have tapped threads on the ends, custom bend a stainless wire to shape/flatten/drill the ends, give it a bit of spring temper and use little bitty nuts with red thread locker to keep it all together.

I hate those bails that are just a "horseshoe" shaped wire. They always flop around, and they pull off easily.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
If memory serves, there is a Case peanut model with scissors and clip blade that has a bail.

If memory further serves, fob knives were normally smaller than a peanut. However, that shouldn't stop you from your current project. Please do stop by and show it off when you are done.
 
knarfeng said:
If memory serves, there is a Case peanut model with scissors and clip blade that has a bail.

If memory further serves, fob knives were normally smaller than a peanut. However, that shouldn't stop you from your current project. Please do stop by and show it off when you are done.
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They are smaller, Frank, but the watch it will get paired with is a size 18 Waltham....it's 2 1/2" diameter...and probably weighs 3 oz., so the scale of it will be correct, and the peanut is the smallest knife I find useable.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Sounds like a good pair! I searched in vain for a suitable keychain traditional but never thought of just creating my own like you are doing:thumbup:
 
I look forward to seeing the new bail.

Most of the fob knives I see are small equal-enders with metal handles containing as much gold as the original owner could afford (usually not much). I have a bigger silver one that is also a cigar cutter. But you can put anything on the anchor end of a watch chain.
 
Case makes a 2 blade peanut with abalone handles and a bail, available now, PM me Steven if you need more info.
 
Kohai999 said:
Was reading the other day about pocket watches and there are single chains and double chains.

The article indicated that a knife was often worn on the other chain. I was thinking that a peanut would be the perfect incarnation of said knife, and have a carried Case select in stag that I am going to drill out a hole in the rear bolster, and make a bail for it.

Has the peanut model ever been offered with a bail?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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STeven, are you in the Cult of the Peanut? I've been trying to get the big man and little dude to take some money out of the Cult's coffers and buy a brand new Suburban, but they like their little car. I couldn't fit in the durn thing when I went for my initiation. Had to ride on the running boards...
 
MT Damascus said:
Case makes a 2 blade peanut with abalone handles and a bail, available now, PM me Steven if you need more info.
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Hey Kris,

I saw that....it's nice, and I almost pulled the trigger....but I don't like that thin sheet stock bail either.....price was reasonable for sure.

This watch and knife go together real nice, so will proceed with my idea as previously posted.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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A certain large online Case retailer has the 8220R SS Peanut, in Abalone w/2 blades and the bail. Very elegant (looks like you've already looked at it, seeing your reply to the earlier suggestion...):

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David
 
I've often thought that if there is one knife that needs a bail, and would benefit greatly by having one, it's the peanut. It would make a grab watch fob knife, keychain knife, or just on a lanyard so it doesn't go astray. Case, are you listening?
 
You might like to consider a GEC 33 Conductor as an alternative, I'm certain some of these came with a bail. If not, they have very sturdy bolsters that offer good drilling sites.....

Regards, Will
 
Will Power said:
You might like to consider a GEC 33 Conductor as an alternative, I'm certain some of these came with a bail. If not, they have very sturdy bolsters that offer good drilling sites.....
Regards, Will
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Thanks for the input! I like having both blades opposite the bail, it is easier to use that way, in my experience.


It's done.

Went with pinning the bolster, as the nuts looked terrible.

The bail stock came from a stainless steel antenna tip and the pin stock is....pin stock...just maybe 300 series stainless.

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You can see the original pin as a "dimple"....right now, it looks more centered where I placed the pin for the bail, imo.

Here are some of the "beauty shots"
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The watch is an American Waltham series 1883 movement made in 1889, size 18. Got it at the Antique Arms and Armor show in Las Vegas at the Riviera after SHOT in January. Just got it back from the repair specialist on Saturday...the movement was dirty and needed a lot of work to clean up. Now it runs for 36 hours + and only loses a second or two.
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The Case Select was carried for some time, and used, it is by no means a safe queen....but it wasn't getting any use lately, I think it will likely more now.
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The movement has some nice embellishment.
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I'm harder on myself than anyone else....wasn't happy about the bail ends protruding so far into the fileworked grooves, so I took it apart, and cut the tabs down a bit.

This is NOT for the average do-it-yourselfer....this project employed a drill press, three buffers, jeweler's tools including a bezel setter to round the peening on the pin and a number of other tools. Glad I did it...don't want to do it again.

Overall, I'm happy....if you don't like it, feel free to say so.
 
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Looks good to me, STephen. That's a fine looking watch too.
 
STeven, your bail looks spectacular, and the watch-chain-knife combination is excellent. Great job! :thumbup::thumbup:
(I'll certainly follow your advice not to try this at home; a man's got to know his limitations. :D)

- GT
 
Great work STeven. I am glad to see the modification you made and very pleased to see you here in the Traditionals forum. Please stop back in when you can.

Chris
 
Kohai999 said:
Overall, I'm happy....if you don't like it, feel free to say so.
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That's gorgeous, Steven. That bail is SWEET, and it makes a fantastic combination with the watch.
 
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