Pegas Russian knife ?

[Kryptoglow]

Has anyone here ever had a Russian Pegas type knife? I saw some when looking at camp style machetes and knives. They are really nice looking but use steels I've never heard of like 440B analog and other metric sounding types of steel. Thanks for any info. Below is a link to one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knife-engra...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=2289833247054424770

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunting-cam...855?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2566c6f8ff

 

[marcinek]

"40X10C2M Analog steel 440"?!?!? What the heck is that?

Avoid it like the plague.

 

[Poez]

The first reference is for a knife from AiR - quite well known mass producer in Russia. When I saw the picture the first time I thought it is a joke manufactured with Photoshop. But it turned out to be a real thing. I do not think there would be anything wrong with it except for looks.
Pegas I have never heard of. And the steel 40X10C2M does not sound any familiar. They actually did not specify the steel exactly. I think 95X18 and this 40X10 are very different kind of animal. I am not an expert and do not have a great interest in Russian steels, but their most common SS steels used for knife making are (in descending order): 95X18, 65X15, 45X13 - the first is most commonly used for various utility knives, the last one - mostly for kitchen knifes and alike. 40X10 - it sounds to me much more like 420 at most...

 

[Thomas Linton]

"Analog steel 440" = claim the steel is comparable to 440" 440 what? Who knows.

 

[CWL]

Don't have a clue what those are, but if you want Russian steel from Zlatoust, take a look at ROSarms knives, there is a manufacturer-hosted subforum here that you can take a look at.

 

[Gator97]

"Analog steel 440" = claim the steel is comparable to 440" 440 what? Who knows.

440C, here 95X18 vs. AISI 440C steel composition comparison.
95X18 also has 0.20% Ti, which AISI steels do not, except I have no idea how does that affect steel performance, if it does at all... I really doubt it would make any real life difference.

 

[Vasya156]

http://klinok.zlatoff.ru/page_6.html This is the link, where you can see the chemical composition of the discussed steels. The page is in Russian, but the chemical terms are international.

 

[Gator97]

Some of the designs are pretty cool, but what's with 55HRC....

 

[Kryptoglow]

Thanks for the replys and info. I think the designs are sweet. They also look like they are quality made.

1 more follow-up question is.... Of the two links I posted what makers make a knife similar to the second link I posted. I know about the Puma model but is there anything else that would be similar in style and a good/well known steel?
Thanks

 

[Shotgun]

If you scroll down on the first one it says the analog is 440B. IMO 440B isn't worth $130.

 

[Gator97]

If you scroll down on the first one it says the analog is 440B. IMO 440B isn't worth $130.

I did more digging this afternoon/evening. 40X10C2M steel is not really 440B analog, having half the Carbon(closer to 420Mod), less Cr, more Si, etc. As I understand, it is a heat resistant valve steel, and I am not sure where all that benefits its knife qualities. May be resistance to elements, but lack of Cr makes that questionable...