Persimmon or Mulberry wood?

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aephilli

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I've heard and read that Mulberry wood and Persimmon wood have both been used for tool handles. I have a bunch of both to clear, has anyone here had any experience using either for tomahawk handles, knife scales, etc?
 
I have a custon knife made out of some persimmon from my ranch in Texas, very goodlooking wood the heart of the wood has black in it. Also has some pens made from the wood!
 
Persimmon is hard, "Wood" golf club heads used to be made of it.I don't know the process of getting either ready for hafts or scales from green wood.
 
I've made walking sticks out of Persimmon. It is a fairly hard, dense wood.
 
aephilli said:
I've heard and read that Mulberry wood and Persimmon wood have both been used for tool handles. I have a bunch of both to clear, has anyone here had any experience using either for tomahawk handles, knife scales, etc?
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What size are the biggest persimmon trees that you have?
 
aephilli said:
Haven't really looked, right offhand I'd say maybe 6-8 inches diameter.
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I know persimmons don't get very big, but if you have any decent sized pieces, I'd love to buy/trade some off you. The black heartwood is the closest thing we have here in the States to ebony, and I'd like some to use for an "all American" guitar. If you're interested. If you want it all for yourself I understand. :)
 
Phillip Patton said:
I know persimmons don't get very big, but if you have any decent sized pieces, I'd love to buy/trade some off you. The black heartwood is the closest thing we have here in the States to ebony, and I'd like some to use for an "all American" guitar. If you're interested. If you want it all for yourself I understand. :)
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Same here ifin you want to trade , ill love get some of that heartwood. Let me know--Thankls Marekz
 
Phillip Patton said:
I know persimmons don't get very big, but if you have any decent sized pieces, I'd love to buy/trade some off you. The black heartwood is the closest thing we have here in the States to ebony, and I'd like some to use for an "all American" guitar. If you're interested. If you want it all for yourself I understand. :)
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You understand that it is still standing (yet to be cut), right? That said, where are you and what do you think shipping would cost, and what size do you need? If you're ever near here, you could pick it up.
 
marekz said:
Same here ifin you want to trade , ill love get some of that heartwood. Let me know--Thankls Marekz
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You understand that it is still standing (yet to be cut), right? That said, where are you and what do you think shipping would cost, and what size do you need? If you're ever near here, you could pick it up.
 
Maybe I shoulda just asked for highest bidder?:p


I've been told it's persimmon, but never really researched. I do know that when you peel the bark off when freshly cut, the wood turns a dark orange, does that sound like persimmon?
 
aephilli said:
You understand that it is still standing (yet to be cut), right? That said, where are you and what do you think shipping would cost, and what size do you need? If you're ever near here, you could pick it up.
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I'm in north east Indiana, where are you?

I would need pieces around 20" long. I would probably only use it for fingerboards and binding, so the heart wood would need to be about 5"-6" across minimum to get a usable quartersawn board big enough.

I'm not sure what shipping would cost.

Thanks,
 
Phillip Patton said:
I'm in north east Indiana, where are you?

I would need pieces around 20" long. I would probably only use it for fingerboards and binding, so the heart wood would need to be about 5"-6" across minimum to get a usable quartersawn board big enough.

I'm not sure what shipping would cost.

Thanks,
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I'm in North Florida, looking at some tonight I may have one 10" diameter, how much of that would be heart wood?

The mulberry I cut last week probably has 10 - 12 inches of heart wood. I'll try to cut the biggest persimmon I can find this weekend to get a look.

Plenty of both for hawk hafts, now just gotta find out how to make a ulu/hatchet head.
 
Mulberry (white) is scaled at 1800 on the Janka hardness test. Persimmon is 2300. Persimmon is very close to cured Osage Orange in terms of hardness.
 
You should be able to find some good sized persimmon boards if you put the word out to timbercutters in the right areas. There were a fair number of persimmon trees on my grandfather's farm in SE Ohio that were between 12" and 18" in diameter
 
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