Photon Vs. ARC LED emergency lights

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These two types of lights are both single LED lights, and they use very similar (if not identical LEDs). Their brightness, given new batteries, is roughly equivalent, but there the similarities stop. I have some of both the Photon II, III, and the new ARC AAA lights, so here is a little ad-hoc comparison...

Before we get to comparisons along more technical lines, lets consider price... The Photon II and the ARC are roughly the same price, about $20 most places. The newer photon III is $5-$7 more than this, the higher figure going to the "covert version" of the photon III.

1. Advantage of the Photon II and III.

Smaller and much lighter than the ARC. The II has an instant switch and a continuous-on switch, while the III has the instant switch, a timed "on", and then all the various lamp modes (high/medium/low, flashing, etc.). The non-covert version of the II and especially the III is more suitable for emergency signalling because it spills light across a whole hemisphere instead of only straight ahead. Batteries last longer than in the ARC, but this is not as much of an advantage as it should be (see below).

2. Disadvantage of the Photon II and III.

Mostly this has to do with the battery and how the light uses it. The batteries are watch batteries, and thus harder to get and more expensive. They are also harder to replace, especially so in the Photon II, though the Photon III has to a great degree mitigated this issue. In my photon II, the batteries were depleted steadily, with the light dropping in intensity slowly through the life of the battery. This means the initially bright light doesn't stay that way for very long as the light is used. Finally, the photon does not appear to be as rugged as the ARC, but it is probably roughly equivalent here as its much lighter weight makes it easier to protect its parts from shock. It is less immune to dirt and water damage, though people have successufully showered with the newer photon III without problem, it is NOT waterproof.

3. Advantages of the ARC

Rugged, waterproof to 3 feet. Very nicely machined of aluminum. LED has a small reflector around it which makes it a little brighter than the Photon. Batteries are cheap, easy to get, and trivial to replace. Battery life is very good especially given the relatively low expense of the batteries. The ARC has circutry that pumps up battery voltage as its current drains keeping the LED at maximum brightness through most of the battery's life. After this is switches down to a "low mode" for a few hours, just to warn you that it is almost dead. This is a great feature!

4. Disadvantage of the ARC

A heavier and larger than the Photon. Has only a rotating head switch, and no user-selectable LED brightness mode (this compares only to the more expensive Photon III).

5. Other things...

Battery shelf life should be taken more or less into account depending on the role invisioned for the device. I think ordinary Alkaline AAA batteries of this day have a shelf life of 5-10 years (so they say) and that's about what watch batteries are supposed to have too I think, so this could be a wash, I don't know...

If you want a tiny light that you are actually going to use routinely for something or other every day, then by all means the ARC makes more sense, if for no other reason than they use battery more efficiently, and much easier to replace.

I've worn a photon around my neck for years. I don't even know its there. I wore an ARC for a week, and definately noticed it. Not that it was a problem, but the extra weight and size of the ARC does make a small difference in that kind of carry.

If different brightnesses will really be useful - you intend to use it with fully dark-adapted eyes, then the special features of the photon might be worth the battery issues. I like, for example, to read in movie theaters, and the low-intensity mode of the "covert version" of the photon is perfect for both my dark-adapted eyes and it doesn't seem to bother those sitting around me.

For general purpose, my nod would have to go to the ARC. The photon would be my choice only if it had to be the absolute lightest and smallest, or where the LED mode features were going to really be used..
 
yep. You came the right conclusion, too, I think. Of all the things I like about the Arc, it's the fact that it keeps its brightness through the life of the battery much better than the Photon. With the photon, I was always happy for the first few days, then I'd have several months of dim photon light for the rest of the battery life. The only time I carry the photon instead of the Arc is when I don't want to deal with the Arc's weight.

Joe
 
I carry both, an ARC and a white Photon II. When I need a light, I use my ARC first. The main reason is batteries. I always hated buying batteries for my Photon.


Blades
 
Good comparison.I have arcs and Photons,and I have to agree with everything you said about both.I really do like the Arc aaa(and LS) more than the Photons,but I find myself carrying a modified P3 most of the time.I like the squeeze switch and the dimming,plus I just recieved 200 of the Photon batteries really cheap,so it is actually more economical and convenient to use the P3s right now.They are both really cool keychain lights.I also have one of the newer Innova microlights with the constant on switch,and it is really cool.The led is recessed so it is covert,it has a nice switch and batteries change without tools.Also it has a claimed water resistance,but I don't know what it exactly is.
Thanks for the comparison Matthew.
troy
 
My LED EDC is an Arc AAA Turq & a Photon3 Red.

I use the Arc AAA far more because of it's ability to remain bright, but often I use the medium or low beam option on the P3 when coming back late at night/early in morning because the turq is pretty harse because it's so bright!

I used to carry an EonIce too until the batteries I'll never need to change, ran out.

Do people find that the black coating on the Arc AAA wears really easily? I do. I guess I'm used to the SureFire HA.

What colour Arc AAAs to people have? Can I get a white LED version?

Al :)
 
Yup Al, you should get one in white if you don't already have one. Didn't you get one of the CPF edition ones?

I agree with most of what was said before. I like the Arc because it maintains it's brightness, while the Photon falls off very quickly. I still have a photon 2 white on my key chain (the photon 3 kept turning itself on). I use the Photon 2 most often, but for runtime the Arc get used MUCH more.
 
What's CPF?

I've got three Photon3's that don't work.
Note to self: "Do something about that"

That's one of the reasons why I switched to Arc AAA.

I like the size of the PII but it's not water-resistant enough.

Al
 
As Al is an Administrator (and here I thought he was only a Moderator:D) on Candlepowerforums.com, I think we can assume that he was just engaging in a bit of sarcasm.;) :) :D

That being said, I guess it is possible that maybe Al wasn't aware of the special Arc AAA that was made especially for CPF members and limited to 100 pieces. It featured Type-III HA in a sort of dark blue finish, along with the whiter B1 LEDs (like on the LE). The CPF edition also offered the ability to have customized engraving done on the body of the light.

Anyway, I find myself a bigger fan of the Arc too for the most part. I carry my CPF Arc on my keychain in a Normark Kydex sheath. The sheath protects the reflector from being scratched, and allows me to take the Arc out and use it without having to remove it from the keychain. I would highly recommend one of Normark's sheaths as a great way to carry the Arc on your keychain.

Bucky
 
The other day, someone told me there was a SureFire Discussion Forum.

I asked: "What are SureFires?"

:rolleyes:

I have this:


One of a hundred... That's not Special Edition enough for me!

Al :D
 
No worries.

Thank you for taking the time to explain. It's likely helped others find out what CPF means.

One would hope that most of the readers of these forums would already have an Arc AAA or Photon...

Al
 
Don't be embarrassed bj70_guy, I was just kidding with you.:)

Everyone needs to have an Arc AAA. They are like photons only better, not that photons are bad by any means. IMO though, Arc is the SureFire of the LED world.

Bucky
 
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