Photos: A Pair of Threes--Winning Hand?

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Wonder if these were made in 1980? Can anyone analyze the difference in contours and make any observations?

One has been to visit Buck for a spit shine.

I didn't have to pay a lot for these. They were very poorly described and very poorly presented on e-Bay. Those are the kind you want to find. Put in the time and it can be done.

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BG,
Nice finds, Those r the knives nobody really looks at closly, and they slip by. I think the 3 dots were made '84-85, and 4 dots were '85-'86. If I have the dot system down, I hope so. 2 Dots werecirca '70-84 and so on. If I'm wrong someone please correct me, BEFORE I by something:eek:. Whenever they were made, they R nice. Congrats:thumbup:
 
BG, Thanks for the photos . MBJ,the dot stampings are explained at the top of this Buck forum . Two dots (away from my notes) 1974-80, three dots 1980-81 and four dots 82-83 . BG, your 112 on the left is 0lder its a non-radius, three dot FG, next is radius three dot . Could be a hand radius of the first . Nice ebony on both . DM
 
hummmm...
did not know you liked girly knives
oh well
nail nick is diff
so is the belly curve and the clip curve on the blades
the blade grind is diff also
the one has a soft blend in to the spine of the balde
other possible early full hollow? can not tell in pict
the one is hand radius edge as noted
heck almost not the same knife...
and looks like diff years of the 3 dot blade
yea the one looks like it was a use up the existing blades
in the next year..
but
both still girly knives jest the same
 
I have grown to like the 112's also, and these are some fine examples of the 3 dots. You did good.
 
Thanks all, for the comments.

Girlie knives, yes.......although we call them that in jest. To me, it's most fascinating to see two knives that it seems should be so similar......actually showing so many differences (even in the blade spine contour, as 110 Dave accurately noted). The profile on the one is much softer and it does look like the earlier full hollow ground blades.

Why? Was one made years later with a blade they found laying around in a corner? Why the big difference in clip and belly curve as 110 Dave noted?

I'm thinking they both have radiused bolsters, but they are definitely radiused to different degrees. And DM.......I think they are both hand-radiused, because they are not radiused at the lock depression at all. I have a Four-Dotter that is definitely radiused at the lock depression. And if you put an unradiused one beside them it would look VERY different, I think.

But I don't have an unradiused one (What's Wrong With Me!!!).

The more I look at these two knives, the more interesting they get.

:)
 
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And.......the finger guards are different and the finger grooves are placed differently.

My relatively unpracticed eye first sees two knives that look the same......then I slowly start to pick up on the differences. If the two knives were not side by side one would probably not be able to learn as much from them.

Guess that's why we like them......they are full of surprises.

And beautiful. I guess I should probably send the second one to Buck for a spit shine so it looks as good as the first.

:)
 
yes if you look toooo closely you get drawn in >>>>>>
you can even get ana_ at times >>>>>details details
dont look but there are differences in the lettering of the tang stamps!

me - i try not to stare to long at them any more...
if you get drawn in to far it takes a long time to come back
yep been there... kinda like doping in to see your condition man...
 
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I've seen those differences in the tang stamps on other Bucks, too. I wonder if it could have varied from knife to knife in the same time period or if it indicates knives a few years apart in time?

I guess I'll make it my quest to find out how many variations of Three-Dotters exist.

That should keep me busy enough to stay out of trouble (but what will you do to stay out of trouble, Dave?).

:D
 
hummm stamps ware out and some times put in "different" by diff people..
the tang stamps can&will differ in a single year
depends on what company buck ordered replacements from..
i have seen quite a number of "simluar" stamps but once drawn in
seen lota differences...
humm ...
3 dotter's specialist, ok, we need one..
start by looking at at 111 blade with 3 dots vs a 110 3 dot and a 111 and 110 with 4 dots..
tell us what you find there grasshopper..


as to what will i do to stay outa trouble now?
... gee... i dont know...

word play with you here ?
naw ... dont do that any more..
'cides
chickentrax was more fun and creative...
btw
any one seen the old rooster ?
or the goosemister?

i miss them here ... dey was fun!
 
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hummm stamps ware out and some times put in "different" by diff people..
the tang stamps can&will differ in a single year
depends on what company buck ordered replacements from..
i have seen quite a number of "simluar" stamps but once drawn in
seen lota differences...

Thanks, Dave......that's good information.

I miss the Goose and the Trax, too. Things are different without them. All things change and the changes just seem to get faster and faster. The only person you can truly count on is you (at least that's what I've found). So be happy with you and take good care of you and try to have a little fun (try to have a lot every now and then).

You is important!

:)
 
The stamps might be the same....just a different depth. The one on the left looks like more pressure was applied so the stamp went deeper.

I too wonder the significance of the 3 dots...don't remember. I know we started marking blades when we switched from 440c to 425M (which allowed us to fineblank blades circa 1980) and then again when we switched from 425M to 420HC...before we starting changing the stamp every year(which was driven by our bayonet contract parameters in 86) we would only do things to mark significant(and oftimes invisible) changes.
 
Thanks CJ . I think there are some guys here that have X-ray vision and are capable of seeing those invisible changes . DM ;)
 
why it is as plain as the nose on my face as the wizard of OZ said!
that there be a smitten of a tad more space between the dots by
the * 112 ** and the dots by the U . S . A .
on the one on the left then on the right
the one on the left hand does have a cleaner strike
then the one on the right..
>>>>>
could be i am looking toooooo deeeeep
fer toooooo looooong at bucks
beam me up scotty! :p
 
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Good.

I'll just assume you are attempting to tease me in a friendly way then......however, I think you made your point several posts ago, so there's really no need to belabor it with additional sarcasm.

Thanks for your serious responses, though. They were helpful. I've learned a lot and will keep trying to learn more if it doesn't bother you too much.
 
yep jest teasing not sarcasm ...
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these are things i noted on the tang stamps
that there are differences you dont see at first and
not every one will see the same thing as you think you do

kind of like grading a coin some folks are so good
they can tell if the die was new or old on a proof coin.
.me i jest see a real shiny coin

our bucks have personalty from the craftsman that made them
each can be very much alike but then
they can be surprising in their differences..

but much of it dont matter to many at all ...
and some consider it much to do about not much ...

i guess what i am saying is
some one may notice things and wander
yet others dismiss that as ok- so your point is?

did i get too deep again?
oh well ... ignore is an option all have
 
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