Piggyback sheaths

[Burchtree]

I don't know what else to call them, but I'm talking about leather sheaths with attached pouches for stones, or multi-tools. I've got a couple to do and have been looking for some pictures on how other folks do it but couldn't come up with any.

Any pics out there?

 

[Wild Rose]

Michael - here's a a bunch of Randall's with pouches.

To make the pouch you need to get some 3/4 oz vegtan.
You then have a choice on how to make the pouch:
1) Make a two piece mold out of plywood - this how the ones on the Randall's pictured were made. Cut a female mold making it as much bigger as the thickness of the leather would be - slightly round the edges and sand the cut portion very smooth. The male section is then cut to the exact size as the stone or what have you - again sand the edges very smooth and break the corners lightly. You will also need a face piece that has a very smooth surface - this is what the outer face of the leather will press up against.
Cut a piece of leather with plenty of extra and get it wet. Place the female mold against the face mold and then lay the leather skin side down on the female mold. Place the male mold on top of the skin side and clamp all three pieces down tightly. Back off and make sure everything is lined up properly and then reclamp. Let dry for about eight hours to make sure the leather takes the "set". Remove the leather from the mold and let AIR DRY ONLY until completely dry. Trim the edged and mark your stitch holes.
BTW I like to make the body of the pouch about 3/4 the length of the item to be housed - this gives plenty of finger purchase.
The flap is made of a separate piece - skive the lower edge that will be sewn down. Make it the right length to overlap the pouch body and then attach to the face of the sheath with a spot of glue. The pouch body is then attached to the face of the sheath with a couple of spots of super glue or whatever glue you choose - the pouch body should overlap the lower skived edge of the flap about a 1/2" at least. Sew everything down - I use 3 cord linen thread at 7 or 8 SPI for this part - it's plenty strong and looks better on the thinner leather.

2)This method is some what simpler - cut a piece of 3/4 oz in a T shape so that the leg of the T will bend over the stone and cover the lower edge - the two sides of the T will bend over the sides of the stone. Attach everything as above. You can sew up the two short open seams along going up the bottom edges of the stone but I often leave them open - they act as drain holes for water and will look just fine.

Hope this helps - if you need I can make a sketch or two to clarify things.

 

[Burchtree]

Thank you very much! The first thing I thought of when I was going to do this was Randall, but their site was down.

I would much appreciate a sketch of the bottom method.

Thanks!

 

[Wild Rose]

That should explain it if not ask away or give me a call 970-259-8396

BTW when using 3/4 oz leather you will need to shorten the shank of the rivet - to do this I place the shanks through the leather and then mark how long is necessary - I then hold a piece of leather against the back of the rivet and then grind away the extra on my disc sander or use a Dremel.

 

[zombiehunter]

Here's a picture of a knife and sheath that was made for me by David Beck. The sheath is made in the fashion of a Randalll sheath but the whole utility pocket is one piece of leather, including the lid.

The belt loop, the back of the sheath and the leg tie down are all one piece of leather as well, improvements over the Randall sheath.

The utility pocket on this sheath is 1 1/8" wide by 5" long by 1/2" high.

-Jared

 

[Burchtree]

Thanks to both of you for the assitance. After jacking around, that Beck style is what I came up with only to find out that it's a little too wide (wanted a SwissChamp pouch) for the knife sheath. I believe it, or Wild Roses will work for the sharpening stone version I am working on this week.

Wild Rose -- thank you very much for your time in drawing up the pouch idea. I'm a more visual person and that helped quite a bit. I also appreciate you putting your number down and offering your time to help me out -- that's what makes these forums so great.

 

[Dan Gray]

Heres a few differant ones I've
done for customers that sent me their knives

 

[manicreader]

Here's one Lifter did for me; a big and small multi tool. Top row, middle picture, black horizontal sheath.

I've been wearing it to work for about a year, and it's very ergonomic.

http://hometown.aol.com/lifter4him1/myhomepage/business.html

 

[John Andrews]

Really cool leather work, folks! The gentleman that makes my sheaths enjoys seeing these posts, too. I show them to him when he is here. My best way to describe my sheath maker is if you would combine Dan(Graymaker) with IG, then add a sprinkle of Roger. And then half bake it.

 

[Dan Gray]

Originally posted by John Andrews
Really cool leather work, folks! The gentleman that makes my sheaths enjoys seeing these posts, too. I show them to him when he is here. My best way to describe my sheath maker is if you would combine Dan(Graymaker) with IG, then add a sprinkle of Roger. And then half bake it.

yeahup IG is the half baked one