Pinnacle, a Sebenza Clone?

[sirgrumps]

Is the Benchmade 750 Pinnacle a clone based on Chris Reeves Sebenza? The blade lines are roughly similar. Both have Titanium mono-lock mechanisms.

Is it going to far to say that Benchmade based the 750 on the Sebezna?

 

[nifrand]

Copying someone elses idea is the highest form of flattery.

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have a"knife"day

 

[stjames]

Here is a great old thread from Year One with some well thought out opinions.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA

 

[ROBB]

Clone-I don't think so.You can say its based on Sebenza's intregal lock but so are many others.Elishewitz made intregal locks way before his Mono lock.So did Mel Perdue,Shinosky even Ralph's Apogee.The list goes on.Eack maker puts his own personnel touches on their work.In fact the only real clone I've seen of the Sebenza was by someone who goes by the name of Matthis J.It can be seen in every issue of A.G.Russells Cutting Edge Magazine.I dont beleive this is our own Jim Matthis on Blade Forums who I have a lot of respect for.

 

[Brian_Turner]

You're right - different James!

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[stjames]

The piece by the other J. Mattis seems to be a liner lock. Kershaw had a Titanium handled liner lock that has similar lines to the old style (classic) Sebenza.

We are lucky to see so many options coming out with regards to Integral/Frame/Mono lock knives in the custom field. It would be nice if Benchmade would follow up the first Monolock, but with the success of the Axis Lock line don't hold your breath.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA

 

[James Mattis]

I've had other "knife people" mixing up me (James Mattis of Glendale) and James Matthes of San Diego for some time, usually harmlessly. He makes knives with moving parts, and I don't. Making that distinction saved me from what would have been an "awkward" discussion concerning the similarity of their folders, when I met Chris Reeve at the last Blade Show West.

I have not examined a J. Matthes integral, so I have no opinion of my own whether cloning has taken place.

A Benchmade 750 has a similar handle in that it is bead-blasted titanium, but a very different blade, and some mechanical differences, and no attempt to duplicate a Sebenza's details or price. All the black Zytel lockbacks are not clones of each other either.



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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001

 

[misque]

Pertaining to the history of the Integral Lock, I understand that it was done by other knifemakers besides Mr. Reeves as early as the 70's(?).
The Pinnacle, IMO, has "borrowed" the Integral Locking mechanism made popular again by Chris Reeve Knives. Other than that, these two knives look and feel different to me. That is, aside from the fact that they are both titanium slab sided folding knives.

I really agree with stjames, in that, I hope and pray that more makers, production and custom, utilize this stone simple and tank tough locking mechanism. The idea is nothing less than brilliant.

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[sirgrumps]

I got to admit, of all the locking mechanism out there that are not proprietary. This mono-block is the best

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