Pipe beginer needs some help

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I have been smoking a pipe off and on for about 2 years now but i think im doing it wrong. Now that i know what is causing my tongue bite... my tobacco:/ and probably my technique. I have been smoking a Missouri corn cob, and smoking captain black royal. I don't inhale, can stand to inhale any tobacco smoke but I enjoy the flavor of cigars and pipes
I was wondering if any of you more experienced hands have a suggestion of a smooth smoking aromatic, or any other tobacco you think a newbie could enjoy. I was also wondering, if i spend the extra money on a briar, would I have a drastically different smoking experience that the corncob I have?
Thanks
 
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get a decent inexpensive regular wood pipe and some decent tobacco, even from a drug store , but better a tobacco shop , and don't inhale the smoke, take slow pulls from it - but really all smoking is pretty bad for you , i smoked for 20 years , stopped, but now been dipping for 4 1/2 years , still can't stop , bad addiction.
 
I have been smoking a Missouri corn cob, and smoking captain black royal. I don't inhale, can stand to inhale any tobacco smoke but I enjoy the flavor of cigars and pipes
 
Smoked a pipe for years myself. A corn cob will give you a really nice smoke, but they only last a few months. Then you have to start seasoning a pipe all over again. That being said, I would stick with a corn cob before I would buy a cheap briar.

Captain Black can be part of your problem. That tobacco is extremely wet and burns hot due to the effort to keep it lit. As mentioned above, I would go to a tobacco shop or buy one of the many samplers out there to find out what I liked and didn't like about tobaccos. At a tobacco shop you could probably buy small quantities and they would be able to guide you along through the different flavor and smoking profiles.

Robert
 
Smoked a pipe for years myself. A corn cob will give you a really nice smoke, but they only last a few months. Then you have to start seasoning a pipe all over again. That being said, I would stick with a corn cob before I would buy a cheap briar.

Captain Black can be part of your problem. That tobacco is extremely wet and burns hot due to the effort to keep it lit. As mentioned above, I would go to a tobacco shop or buy one of the many samplers out there to find out what I liked and didn't like about tobaccos. At a tobacco shop you could probably buy small quantities and they would be able to guide you along through the different flavor and smoking profiles.

Robert

This.:thumbup::thumbup:

Unfortunately, Captain Black is a heavily sugared tobacco, and is a wet smoke. Robert is very right about going to a good tobacco shop and getting a mild smoke that is not heavy with sugared aromatics. For starters, try a 50/50 mix of a burley with Virginia. As a rule, the more aromatic a tobacco is, the more additives have been added. This makes it smoke like a blow torch.

Another thing you can do is research the Tobacco's at Tobaccoreviews.com. If it's sold, they most likely will have a review and feedback on it.

One other thing, not getting the bowl packed right can lead to tongue bite. To tight, and you have to draw too hard. Too loose and it burns hot.

Carl.
 
I smoked a pipe for a couple years. Just long enough to get halfway good at it before making some pretty major healthier changes in my life and giving up tobacco for good.

Here was my method that worked for me. First the fill. I did it in three steps. #1 fill the bowl to the top full of loose tobacco. #2 press down and then refill to full with loose tobacco again. #3 press down and refill for the third time. (Used fingers for all this)

Next light the tobacco with a lighter while puffing. (I used a regular bic.) Five or six good puffs while lighting. Even though the tobacco was most likely lit, I used the tamper to tamp down the tobacco immediately after this, which inevitably put out the tobacco.

Finally was the re-light and enjoyment. It takes practice to keep the tobacco burning right. I would judge it by the temperature of the pipe bowl when you hold it. Too hot, you're puffing too often. Not staying lit, puff more or the tobacco is too wet. Goes great with bourbon. sip. puff. think. talk. puff. sip. etc.

Smoking a pipe is a zen type of thing. It's about the experience and shouldn't be rushed. I'd never consider it unless I had a solid hour available, and that's about how long one bowlful lasted for me in an average sized pipe.

Grizz
 
I'd ditch the Captain Black. As mentioned earlier.... burns hot and moist. If you are going to stick with OTC tobaccos.... give Carter Hall a try. Carter Hall in a MM cob..... one of life's simpler pleasures.


edited to add: if you are serious about learning more, check out www.pipesmokersforum.com/
 
A decent pipe can make all the difference in the world. I'm particular to Peterson pipes as I think they give the best bang for the buck.
Getting your pack right is an art form. To loose and it won't smoke well. To tight and it won't either. When I was getting started I had a guy show me to fill the bowl in thirds and take an inhale each time I packed a layer. It helped to find the right consistency.
As to the smoke being to wet. I actually set my new tobaccos out for a bit to let some of the moisture evaporate out. I tend to prefer a drier tobacco. Also keep in mind that relative temperature and humidity can create more or less condensation in the shank as you smoke. The shape of the pipe and length of the shank can also make a difference.
 
I haven't smoked in years, but I remember from pipe smoking days that the more aromatic the tobacco the more it bit the tongue.
 
I have been smoking a pipe off and on for about 2 years now but i think im doing it wrong. Now that i know what is causing my tongue bite... my tobacco:/ and probably my technique.

It's a combination of basically three things. As you mentioned, tobacco and technique. Third is the pipe.

I struggled with the same problem for years. Folks seemed to be enjoying pipe smoking, but it was just a miserable experience for me. Then I discovered I'd been driving right past an Edwards Pipe Shop for years without knowing it. Going in there changed my whole attitude about pipes and they finally became enjoyable.

Tobacco - you really can't get a decent tobacco in a drug store. Too many preservatives and such to keep it "fresh" ruin the experience. That said, Captain Black is ok in a pinch if you are desperate. You really need to find a local tobacco shop or purchase mail order.
If there is an Edwards in your area, I'd recommend it. If not, many of them do mail order. They have a blend called Buccaneer that is very similar to Capt. Black.

Pipes - You're looking for something that absorbs the heat and moisture. Corncobs do a great job, but most people burn them out rather quickly....but they are inexpensive.

Clay is very good, but VERY fragile.

Meerschaum is also excellent, really takes off the heat and moisture and after time changes into some really attractive colors. Many of the carved ones are gorgeous. Only problem is they are more fragile than briar. Not really suitable for carrying around, but nice for that evening smoke. Pressed Meerschaum is much less fragile....thats what most of the bowls of calabash pipes are made from; not quite as good as pure Meerschaum, but still good. There is an African meerschaum that is not as fragile, but not quite as pretty, still a very good smoke. All the Meerschaums do very well at absorbing heat and moisture.

Briar is obviously the most popular. But you want one that hasn't been painted and lacquered to make it look pretty and cover up all the pits and flaws in the briar. All that coating just keeps the heat and moisture in and doesn't let the briar do its job. You want a natural briar pipe, that may be stained for color, but not the cheap way drug store pipes are. You're not going to find a decent one in a drug store, but I have very good smoking pipes that cost in the $20-30 range.

Technique - In general, most folks have trouble learning how to load and tamp the tobacco correctly. You want to load about 1/3 of the bowl, tamp that, then repeat until full. You want to tamp it firmly and consistently, but not so firm that its difficult to draw. Improper tamping is the major cause of tongue bite. Takes a little practice, but it quickly becomes second nature.
The other cause is smoking too fast. Excessive puffing really heats things up and also causes tongue bite. Cigarette smokers who are trying to move to pipes seem to have the most trouble with that.
Pipe smoking is NOT a good nervous habit.:D
 
May I recommend trying Just for Him's "Shortcut to Mushrooms" it's listed as an "English" blend but it is an Aromatic hybrid. Very smooth and flavorful, I think you'll enjoy it.
 
A lot of tongue bite also comes from people trying to keep the pipe lit or from going out. Don't tamp too hard and every two or three puffs or sips just very gently exhale through the stem and it will help keep it lit. It takes some practice but it isn't rocket science. Once everything clicks in place for you you will wonder why you ever had any trouble with it. Do dump the Captain Black. There is a wide range of tastes and flavors (and strengths) in tabaccos.
 
Take the pipe, break it in half. Then burn the tobacco in your fire pit. Really? Shouldn't this post be 'help in getting lip, mouth, throat, and lung cancer.'?

Update: Tobacco is BAD for you.

Stop smoking is my advice.
 
Take the pipe, break it in half. Then burn the tobacco in your fire pit. Really? Shouldn't this post be 'help in getting lip, mouth, throat, and lung cancer.'?

Update: Tobacco is BAD for you.

Stop smoking is my advice.

Thanks for that wonderful insight....

The other guys pegged it, except the pipe, corn cob pipes are fine, short lived, but good smoke.

Tobacco, less aroma, less additives makes better smoke, a lot of tabacconists (sp) will let you sample.

Another thing to consider for taste is having a few pipes to handle your different tobacco blends, taste and aroma tend to stick.

Packing and draw affect bite the most, experiment with packing and take smooth, even draws.
 
Take the pipe, break it in half. Then burn the tobacco in your fire pit. Really? Shouldn't this post be 'help in getting lip, mouth, throat, and lung cancer.'?

Update: Tobacco is BAD for you.

Stop smoking is my advice.

Way to be a valued member of the community. Warning: living my cause death. I ride a motorcycle, I'm a firefighter, I enjoy pipes and cigars, and I SCUBA dive. Damn, I litterally knocking on death's door!

Go troll somewhere else, troll.


If you have any tobbaconists around you, most will let you sit in the shop and sample some different kinds. They might even be more generous if you tell them you are new to the hobby, and are wanting to find something that suits you.

I'm partial to English tobbaco myself. :)
 
Take the pipe, break it in half. Then burn the tobacco in your fire pit. Really? Shouldn't this post be 'help in getting lip, mouth, throat, and lung cancer.'?

On the plus side, Pipe smoking is the less risky than all the other forms of tobacco usage (except maybe ecigs).
Most pipe smokers experience a calming effect and a real reduction in stress. The destructive effects of stress are often overlooked and underrated.

Update: Tobacco is BAD for you.

As the kids would say Duh! ;)

Stop smoking is my advice.

Certainly not bad advice, albeit not really necessary or appropriate for this thread.

Warning: living my cause death. I ride a motorcycle, I'm a firefighter, I enjoy pipes and cigars, and I SCUBA dive. Damn, I litterally knocking on death's door!

Might as well add skydiving and free climbing while you're at it. :D


If you have any tobbacconists around you, most will let you sit in the shop and sample some different kinds. They might even be more generous if you tell them you are new to the hobby, and are wanting to find something that suits you.

:thumbup: I'd say 99% of the tobacconists would be happy to help. Aside from earning a new regular customer, most know getting started can be tricky and a little help goes a long way. Finding the perfect blend can take time, but it can also be a fun adventure exploring the various tobaccos.
I worked part-time in the Edwards I mentioned above and always enjoyed helping a customer new to pipes.
 
Way to be a valued member of the community. Warning: living my cause death. I ride a motorcycle, I'm a firefighter, I enjoy pipes and cigars, and I SCUBA dive. Damn, I litterally knocking on death's door!

Go troll somewhere else, troll.


If you have any tobbaconists around you, most will let you sit in the shop and sample some different kinds. They might even be more generous if you tell them you are new to the hobby, and are wanting to find something that suits you.

OP, good advice on the commiserating, er, advice from other short lifers. Misery loves company.
I'm partial to English tobbaco myself. :)
You are a Firefighter, and still haven't learned that all tobacco use is dangerous? Bet you enjoy a good meth pipe, too. It's all good, Mr Extreme guy. You are so much smart than I for risking your life on many more levels than I. BTW, get used to sucking on an oxygen tank. Eventually, you'll need it full time.

Is pipe smoke better than snüs? I dunno.

Good post either way. :)

Well, snus is better to rot your mouth faster. Cancer straight to the lips, tongue, and throat. BUT, getting more to your lungs is a plus, so why not do both.
 
My great uncle is 87 years old, and at one point was what you would call an avid pipe smoker, until recently he smoked a great deal, but slacked off in the past ten years or so, he's in exceptional health for a man his age, and is driving down to my house this afternoon for the 4th 100 miles from OKC, my Grandpa was an avid cigar smoker, and is 83 years young, and quit some time ago, still in superb health, building fence, and working cattle, most every week. I don't smoke my self, but can't help but feel it has a great deal to do with the quality of the stuff you smoke, obviously mass produced, cigarettes, have a lot of other stuff, in them aside from tobacco, which I'm not saying is safe, but I suppose it's kinda like eating somewhat, natural junk food, versus highly processed, stuff you buy at the convenience store. Terrible analogy I know, but really you've got to go sometime, and relaxation is very important, and smoking a pipe was actually recommended to my uncle, by his psychologist, as a form of natural stress relief, my uncle explicitly stated, that he didn't wan't to be prescribed any mind altering big pharma drugs, and that was the supposed remedy. In the end it's your choice, and insults aren't needed to convey whatever it is your driving at.
 
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