Pivit Pin Folder Failure?

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Hey guys,
I thought I would bounce this question off the forum, since the vast majority of you are either avid woodsman or spend allot of times outdoors.

Have any of you ever encountered or heard of a Buck 110 or any other type folder actually breaking NOT at some point on the blade but at the actual pivot pin?

The reason I'm asking is that this argument has been used for years about the cons of packing any type of folder when in the field and that the preferred knife to carry should be of the fixed type..

But if you're not going into the woods for an extended amount of time and if so, you also pack a good hatchet, is a fixed blade really necessary?

Cheers,
Serge
 
never heard of a buck 110 broken at the pivot pin..
as for the later, i believe it all comes down to personal preferences
 
Any piece of steel can fail, for a variety of reasons.

But what you describe sounds like something so rare as to be a non-factor.

I consider the 110 to be totally reliable.
 
The pivot pin has the least stress of just about any part of the knife when you start prying and twisting and messing about -- you'd have to majorly pry the bolsters and liners apart and away from the tang of the blade for any significant sideways/shearing stress to be placed on the pivot pin - and the knife would be unusable well before that point anyway. No, I've never seen one with a broken pivot pin -- I have seen a folder where the tang broke even with the pivot pin hole, but that was a fault in the heat treatment (and the pivot pin was perfectly fine). If you're idiot enough to baton with a folder, then you get what you deserve - but that includes most fixed blades also.
 
Well,a number of years ago i wondered just how tough the pivot was in a 110 folder.It played on my mind for some time,and finally i decided to find out ,i took a 1995 model 110 and put it thru a torture test,I pried with it,i batoned it with a hammer into a hardwood block,i threw it,beat it thru a spike(this ruined the blade don't try it)I took it to the extremes and ruined the knife completely,i bent the handles/broke the blade halfway,but it still opened and locked up(with a fair amount of play in all directions)and the pivot was still holding fine after all that.I did this on purpose to give me an idea of what this knife was really made of,none of the things i did to it were what you would use a knife for,but sometimes you gotta know ,and now i know.One of the toughest folding hunting knives ever built.
 
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