Playing With Fire In The Rain, Making Fire Under Very Wet Conditions

Mistwalker

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The autumn and winter are great in that it is the season where fires are nice to sit by. These are the times in which fires become more valuable as well. And as usual with nature, this is the time when tinder, kindling, and fuel are also the easiest to find and gather. With all of the greenery out of the way we can see for greater distances here in the southeastern temperate deciduous rain forests. There is always lots of downed timber, and the fallen leaves themselves are often a very valuable fire starting asset.

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There are many organic materials that make great tinder available this time of year. There are grasses, and lot of seed pods like thistle and what I’ve heard is called horse weed, and sometimes the heads of Queen Anne’s lace work well.

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However, one part of living in a rain forest is dealing with the rain. When you can so often sit on a bluff and watch the rains come in.

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And the view goes from this…

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To this in a very short period of time.

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When this happens and the rains last for days this is the usual view of the woods.

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In these conditions a lot of my favorite fire starting tinders are relatively ineffectual for starting fire. Horseweed will normally catch a spark very quickly and burn plenty hot enough to ignite dry leaves which will in turn ignite smaller twigs as you first stages of tinder and kindling. However under these conditions, even though the seed heads have been swaying in the breeze for hours since the last actual rain, they are not dry enough to perform very well, much less ignite the wet leaves. In this case it took several sparks landing in the same area to dry that part out enough to ignite, but it didn’t burn well or long.

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It is on days like this that we are very fortunate in that nature provides us with a means of starting fires that works well in the rain as long as you have the hot burning sparks of a ferro rod, a lighter, or some matches. It does take a good deal of heat to achieve ignition. This stuff is called fatwood by most these days, but is also known as light wood, pitch wood, fat lighter, and a few other colloquial names around the world. Sometimes it is in such large pieces that it is really easy to spot.

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The root section of this fallen dead pine tree is very easy to access and is so rich that even just a few curls puts off a lot of heat for a full minute, and so much light that close-up pics darken the photo.

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Even while this is going on around me, and after hours of heavier rains.

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Sometimes it is easy to spot, yet more work to access…

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Other times it is harder to spot, yet easy to access. There is a nice rich piece of fatwood right here. Though it looks like just a clump of moss amongst the leaves, there are some telling signs that give it away..

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The best sign in this instance are the small sections of deteriorated bark that have separated that lets you know there was a pine stump here.

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Scrape away the rotten debris on the surface of the ground and probe the ground below and you will probably find something solid. Sometimes they go deep and are harder to dig up, and sometimes they are just small sections. The pieces found this way tend to vary is size, but most are as rich as, or more rich, than most pieces found above ground.

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Even though the rotten outer layer will be soaked with moisture, the pitch heavy wood within will be soaked with flammable resin.

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Split into small slivers and then whittled into shavings a pile of this even smaller than the pile of horseweed will easily ignite and burn hot for several minutes producing a lot of heat.

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I assume the name fatwood comes from how the resin that cooks out of the wood has such a resemblance to fat cooking from meat. It is this resin that is so flammable and even small amounts of it will burn for long a period of time which comes in handy when everything is soaked. This wood was just picked up off the ground around me to make a point. You can see the amount of moisture we are dealing with here.

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But between the rain and the mists even dead wood gathered from off the ground has high moisture content, just much lower than that gathered from the ground, and catches fire a good bit quicker.

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These shots show just how well the horseweed doesn’t burn under these conditions.

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Fantastic thread and great photos. Ive never used fatwood and have been wondering how to spot it, this helps quite a bit.
 
Great post! I think maybe you should go by the name" FireWalker" cause you sure are good at makin fire! Thanks.
 
Truly superb and interesting thread. :thumbup:

However, as I grow older, and far less patient, I find myself more and more trasitioning to the use of road flares as a firestarter! :p:p
 
Great thread, Mist. It looks exactly like when it poured down rain when I was down there. Everything was soaked the first 2 days last year. The first storm appeared out of no where. Quite a shock from living in flatland to going to mountains for it to be so clear and then be storming within minutes.

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Great thread ! That stuff was so plentiful in the woods of western N.C. where I grew up . My dad showed me how to find and use it when I was just a boy. Good stuff !
 
Sometimes it's nicer to be out in the scruff weather because the smells come alive. Love the pics bud, it took me there. Thanks.:thumbup:
 
I see why your name is mistwalker now. Awesome thread, very cool and so informative
 
Fantastic thread and great photos. Ive never used fatwood and have been wondering how to spot it, this helps quite a bit.

Glad it helped. I have considered doing an in-depth and picture heavy fatwood recognition and use thread then locking it and just saving it for when people have questions. I have quite an extensive collection of photos of it in every state of being I have found it in and in every season of the year.


pics ! That little knife looks sweet ! Tells us a little more about it & how it performs :D

Thanks man, I got this one with thoughts to the "one knife" discussion. My conclusion was that for my personal circumstances it would need to be a knife that was small but really tough. So far it's doing well, you know I'll do a review at some point in the near future :)


Hunting fatwood has been my new hobby. Love the pics.

It is a good resource to be aware of in the areas where it is most plentiful.


Wha....No birch bark..:D

Great thread and info. :)

We have a lot of River Birches down along the river with paper bark. That stuff makes awesome tinder and definitely one of my favorites but I never see those up in the mountains. I use it a lot when I am down along the river. One thing I have learned is to check it for spiders before putting the bark in my pockets.


Great post! I think maybe you should go by the name" FireWalker" cause you sure are good at makin fire! Thanks.

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, it's funny how a little thing like severe frost bite, gangrene, and doctors wanting to remove your toes can become the inspiration for a life long study of fire starting...


Truly superb and interesting thread. :thumbup:

However, as I grow older, and far less patient, I find myself more and more trasitioning to the use of road flares as a firestarter! :p:p

Thanks. Yeah, I still keep a bar or two of trioxane around for those days when I really just don't feel like fooling around and just want a fire regardless of conditions.


Great thread, Mist. It looks exactly like when it poured down rain when I was down there. Everything was soaked the first 2 days last year. The first storm appeared out of no where. Quite a shock from living in flatland to going to mountains for it to be so clear and then be storming within minutes.

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Thanks TG, glad you liked the post. Yep, that's one bad thing about living in the gorges here, you can only see so much of the sky and it can go from blue to cloudy to rain pretty quick sometimes. And to make it worse sometimes the rain lasts an hour or less and others it won't stop for four days.


Great thread ! That stuff was so plentiful in the woods of western N.C. where I grew up . My dad showed me how to find and use it when I was just a boy. Good stuff !

Thanks man, yep living here I learned about it at an early age as well. It can be a real time saver when getting the fire going is "your job".


Another Great Post Mist

Great information and Excellent photos!!!!

Thanks Bill, glad you liked the pics!


Sometimes it's nicer to be out in the scruff weather because the smells come alive. Love the pics bud, it took me there. Thanks.:thumbup:

Oh I much prefer to be out in the mists and rain than any other time. It's much more peaceful, I can get much closer to the animals, and there is just something primal about sitting under an over hang rock by a fire looking out at the mists and falling rain.


I see why your name is mistwalker now. Awesome thread, very cool and so informative

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the post. Yeah, I've been that way my whole life. I look up at the mountains and see the fog and mists and if at all possible I head to the woods to walk for hours.
 
Yet another awesome thread brother. Love these kind of threads. Great photos, and I learned something today.
 
I owned that knife and it was a great hiking knife. It had a large hand filling handle. The hollow grind was much better than some of the other TOPS knives I tried. Didn't care for the sheath system much. I found the gray coating wasn't as thick as the Black Traction Coating and did allow some patina to develop. It didn't show wear as bad either.

Really enjoyed the thread Mistwalker. Great pics and very helpful info. Thanks
 
I owned that knife and it was a great hiking knife. It had a large hand filling handle. The hollow grind was much better than some of the other TOPS knives I tried. Didn't care for the sheath system much. I found the gray coating wasn't as thick as the Black Traction Coating and did allow some patina to develop. It didn't show wear as bad either.

Really enjoyed the thread Mistwalker. Great pics and very helpful info. Thanks

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed the post. This one has a saber grind and not a hollow, but I like the knife a good deal because it is roughly the same size as my RC3 but has a blade roughly twice as thick. Although I could deal with it just fine even if it were only 5/32, I do much prefer a 3/16" thick blade over one that is less than 1/8" thick on a knife that I expect to get rough with. I usually end up using some fine steel wool and oil to smooth the surfaces on traction coated knives.
 
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