Playing with the Golden Stone

[singularity35]

This is an update to Mr. Glesser's awesomely generous gesture to me, a few months ago. When I posted that I had to field sharpen my knife, he immediately responded by sending me a golden stone to play with. Thanks again Mr. Glesser!

My impression is that the edges of golden stone is just a bit coarser than the spyderco brown sharpmaker stones. Perfect for that utility edge! Now my knives are just as sharp as when I'm with my sharpmaker.

The golden stone has a built in 20 dps angle when used according to instructions and I wanted a bit less than that and found a "fix" that works for me. I'm not so good with words when trying to explain this but the golden stone has a sort of point in the middle that acts as a pivot to tilt it from side to side to give you that angle so you can use it like a sharpmaker. I used a coin to lower the angle a bit. I'd be happy to answer any questions for any clarifications.

 

[murfdog67]

Excellent story that reflects what is becoming so evident to a new member, it certainly is a community here. Thanks for posting

 

[wire edge]

Looking good! I like the penny trick, good idea.

 

[singularity35]

Excellent story that reflects what is becoming so evident to a new member, it certainly is a community here. Thanks for posting

I'm happy to share.

 

[singularity35]

Looking good! I like the penny trick, good idea.

My subjective view is that the lowering of the angle makes a big difference in felt sharpness. The edge just feels more sticky and seems to bite into the skin of my fingers more than from the 20dps without the coin. I don't have any idea of what the angle is now though.

 

[Sal Glesser]

We'll send a fixture to you that converts the 40 degrees to 30 degrees. Still refining it.

sal

 

[singularity35]

Thank you Mr. G, that would make the golden stone even more versatile in the field. You da man!

 

[sir_mike]

We'll send a fixture to you that converts the 40 degrees to 30 degrees. Still refining it.

sal

Did you or will you guys ever make a fixture like the sharpmaker case to house the 701's in for the correct angles, 30 and 40? I am new at sharpening so looking for a gig/fixture! Or maybe one for the Double Stuff!

Thx.

 

[Sal Glesser]

The plan is that the Golden Stone will be coupled with a CBN stone (the old duckfoot but in CBN) with fixtures for 30 degrees and a fixture for vertical position at about 15 degrees. Then we'll figure out what to put it in, then make a video. It's really an "afi" stone.

sal

 

[The Mastiff]

I often overlook the Spyderco sharpening stones as I'm into freehand mostly. I recently got out the oldish 8x2 ceramic Ultra fine grit Whet stone to give it some work. It all came back to me what I liked and disliked about it.

Mainly I stopped sharpening above 160 to 600 grit. I have stones going up into the 8K and up range but I like the edge the lower grits give. I can make my knives shave hair like a fine straight razor and have them fail cutting certain type objects without using a lot of force, slicing motions etc. The more coarse edge blades can start the tomato or paper cuts better but lack in the shaving dept. I can live with that.

Another thing I recalled was the Ceramic stones, finer grit the more noticeable really clog up and stop cutting pretty quick compared to some other types ( Norton, several unnamed inexpensive ones). Even with water they clog up faster. Without water they clog up extremely quickly.

When fresh and clean you can get a nice edge put on . It looks good too. I suspect that I need some coarser grits to get a true apples to apples test but they are expensive compared to cheap Nortons and no name stones, but pretty inexpensive compared to high quality water stones.



I still like this stone for it's quality, precision and believe there is a place for it at it's current price. I wouldn't recommend the ultra fine as a stand alone as it doesn't hog steel off fast enough compared to coarse/extra coarse. This can mean a lot of time if one is resetting bevels or just needing to remove steel. Between the fine grit and the stones tendency to clog it would just be a couple steps above a "arkansas" stone. In addition it sure seems to last and last. I still don't see any use unlike some stones you can see grooving as you work. This is tough, wear resistant stuff.

Joe

 

[JD Spydo]

Mastiff you make an interesting point about the ceramic stones tending to clog up easy. I'm to the point now that I pretty much clean my Spyderco ceramic stone just about after every sharpening to insure that they have that uniform bite that I like. I usually sharpen no more than 2 blades at the very most and then give them a thorough clean up.

I'm blown away by Mr. Glesser's annoucement of a new type of Goldenstone with CBN >> I'll be looking very forward to it. I had a feeling that there was a significant reason that they discontinued the Duckfoot.

I especially notice that the stones on the 204 Sharpmaker get to where they just don't abrade properly unless you clean them often. However on a positive note I've noticed that when using the ultra-fine stones they become like a strop.

I'm not really complaining per se because I'm willing to do what it takes to get them to perform right.

 

[JD Spydo]

The plan is that the Golden Stone will be coupled with a CBN stone (the old duckfoot but in CBN) with fixtures for 30 degrees and a fixture for vertical position at about 15 degrees. Then we'll figure out what to put it in, then make a video. It's really an "afi" stone.

sal

Could you give us a tentative date in which we can expect to be able to purchase one of these great new sharpening tools Mr. Glesser?? And are the fixtures going to be available about that time as well?

Really looking forward to new Sharpening equipment. Everything Spyderco has made in the past 15 years has never disappointed me. Also any clue as to when the video might be available as well?