Please help me understand this...

akadave2

akadave2

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I just got this Case Barlow from the bay and its bent? Crooked? Malformed? What happened here? Did one side of this get re-covered? I think its going back!

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Looks like a bit of a gimp. How does it open and close?
If you bought that new send it back.
 
i will of course yield to the many traditional knife meisters here, but my guess...yup there was a mod done.

Peter
 
It would have helped if you had put the knife next to some straight lines for comparison instead of laying it across them. Macro lenses play tricks as well as do the wide angle lenses. My camera has a wide angle macro feature that fires automatically and I don't really know exactly what I am looking at.

As far as the scales go, I have seen worse mismatch from CASE, but that doesn't mean it wasn't rescaled. The backspring pin is peened on one side, then flat on the other. On one side the scale one pin is neatly peened/turned, and the other has its head missing.

The small portion of the backspring/liner/blade connection you show makes it look as if the parts all line up.

Who knows?

I can tell you that I had a friend of mine that had his pocket knife run over by a camp truck when we were out hunting. It had a very gentle sway in the middle of about 1/8", and worked fine. It didn't even break the bone scales. I thought it was awful and I couldn't stand to look at it, and he loved it. Thought it added "character".

I would try taking a picture that shows your problem better.

Robert
 
:DYou need a straight down shot with the blades open, they're kind of blocking the view. Does seem to be a pretty pronounced bend though. With a bend like that you'd think the cover would have pulled above the bolster on that side, odd that they're still even, maybe the bend is an optical illusion ;) :D

Eric
 
I've been agreeing far too much with Charlie, lately, but before I read his post I thought, "It's been sat on."

The bend is too much for me . . . I would return it if possible.
 
Notice that its bent on the pile side more so, the scale is considerably different as well, its as though it's bent on one side only, and more the top side, rather than the spring side?..you can see a slight different on the spring side, but not as much as top side thats for sure-unless me ol' eyes be playin tricks on me!
Being a 40 to 64 it wouldnt have been too cheap either if considered Mint! I would most certainly contact the seller, and assertively ask for a refund, show them this thread!
 
I can see a mismatch in those scales too-perhaps it suffered a trauma and one scale cracked and was replaced -possibly by the makers?
it definitely doesn't look right.
 
To me it looks damaged. I'm tellin' ya, it almost looks "run over". As I said in an earlier post, I had a buddy that had his run over and that is what it looked like. It was in a gear bag and was kind of padded, so it just bent.

But worse, to consider that knife "near mint" doesn't even qualify as a joke. A flattened pin on the backspring (it didn't leave the factory like that) nor did the missing pin head lend anything other than evidence to the contrary that the knife if far from mint.

Think of what we are seeing here, and add all the defects up. And then remember that back in these days that knife was made, CASE was making a fine knife, equal to anything manufactured knife on the planet.

MINT my behind...

Send it back!

Robert
 
So you're the "lucky" winner! :D It sure looked great in the listing. Hope whatever you decide to do goes smoothly. :)
 
Looks like the pile side has been rehandled. The bone looks like it has been dyed to match the mark side. I know the two sides often have different cuts of bone, stag, etc., but it looks to me like someone was trying to match those. Also, the pins look more "factory" on the mark side, and different on the pile side. Particularly, that center pin, that looks kinds mashed and flat.

And yeah, sat on for years.

IMO, anyway...
 
I have seen some pretty mismatched scales from Case, even XX era stuff, but those are too far off the mark for me. Add to that the frame being bent, and I am sure you paid plenty for an XX, back it would go if me. A lot of knife dealers there are putting No Returns in their listings, hope that was not the case here. I don't know how that flies with eBay and PayPal, I have not tested that. Hope all goes well for you.
 
What did the box look like when it arrived? Did you elect to have insurance placed on it? I ask this because I expect the buyer will try to say it happened in shipping.
 
My bet is that the new scale(the darker one) is a tiny bit longer and forced into place after it was fitted to th liner. The maximum bend is right at the bolster which also looks very different from the marked bolster and may have been replaced too.

Best regards

Robin.
 
ptradeco said:
I have seen some pretty mismatched scales from Case, even XX era stuff, but those are too far off the mark for me. Add to that the frame being bent, and I am sure you paid plenty for an XX, back it would go if me. A lot of knife dealers there are putting No Returns in their listings, hope that was not the case here. I don't know how that flies with eBay and PayPal, I have not tested that. Hope all goes well for you.
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Not as well as you might think. I recently bought a knife on ebay that was supposed to be a vintage German made knife of a famous brand. When I got the knife, even though it was not marked China, it was clearly the Chinese version. I took about 10 pictures, downloaded all pictures that were used by the seller to show the knife and put them all on my hard drive.

I contacted the seller to let them know I was unhappy and heard nothing. I then contacted ebay's fraud division and let them know someone was selling fakes, the PayPal, the American Express (because I use them on my PayPal account).

They all contacted the seller who ran for the hills immediately and copied me with their emails to her. She refunded my money immediately after being bowled over by those guys. The whole thing took 4 days.

ebay, PayPal and AMEX were most interested in my happiness.

Robert
 
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