Plumbing help drains- plastic-brass

[Bufford]

I am installing a new shower stall, and I am wondering what kind of glue to use to connect a 1.5 inch brass drain pipe to black plastic sewer pipe. Is standard ABS cement good enough for this kind of application, or do I need to make a mechanical fit such as a union?

 

[Dan Gray]

I am installing a new shower stall, and I am wondering what kind of glue to use to connect a 1.5 inch brass drain pipe to black plastic sewer pipe. Is standard ABS cement good enough for this kind of application, or do I need to make a mechanical fit such as a union?

IN one word,, NO..
nothing sticks well to the Black PVC .
get a barbed adapter to go inside the PVC so you can clamp it..the other end
of the adapter will depend on if your brass fitting is threaded or needs to be soldered
you can use plastic if your brass is threaded for it, if not you can get one in slip fit and solder it in the brass
your hardware store can help you on sizes .

being a new shower stall
why not get the type of drain ready set up to take a #40 PVC trap
it has it's own seal, just push it in place..
I just diid that to my new one a few years back,, works great..
from home depot.

 

[Fred.Rowe]

They make unions for this application. What size is the abs pipe? The black one. Is it 3 or 4 inch? The end that attaches to the abs will be a glue fitting.
Use pvc pipe cement and cleaner. The end that takes the 1.5" brass, is a compression fitting.

Shouldn't this thread be in plumbing?

Fred

 

[Steve Hayden]

They make unions for this application. What size is the abs pipe? The black one. Is it 3 or 4 inch? The end that attaches to the abs will be a glue fitting.
Use pvc pipe cement and cleaner. The end that takes the 1.5" brass, is a compression fitting.

Shouldn't this thread be in plumbing?

Fred

No I think the thread is on the plumbing Fred.:jerkit:

 

[Fred.Rowe]

No I think the thread is on the plumbing Fred.:jerkit:

Took me a moment. Plumbers humor always runs the same direction, downhill.

Fred

 

[Dan Gray]

MY bad if it's not black pvc that I'm thinking of..

that's the only back that gets used here the rest is the schedule 40 whitish
stuff for the drainage.
Hey
isn't 3-4" a bit large for a shower stall ? mine is 1 1/2" to the trap

I'm not a Plummer but I did stay at a Holliday-Inn last night

 

[Fred.Rowe]

MY bad if it's not black pvc that I'm thinking of..

that's the only back that gets used here the rest is the schedule 40 whitish
stuff for the drainage.
Hey
isn't 3-4" a bit large for a shower stall ? mine is 1 1/2" to the trap

I'm not a Plummer but I did stay at a Holliday-Inn last night

The black pipe is called abs around here. Same wall thickness as sch. 40
Comes in all standard sizes that pvc comes in.
They make adapters for anything from 4 inch to 1 1/2" and then a compression fitting on the opposite end for the tailpipe coming from the shower/sink or what have you.
The plumbing at a holiday inn won't teach you much.

Fred

 

[Steve Hayden]

Took me a moment. Plumbers humor always runs the same direction, downhill.

Fred

The Plumber's Second Law: "Water and sh!t flow downhill."
The first law is that "Payday is on Friday."

In Geology the second law is known as Hillslope Processes.

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Forget the plumbing fittings

The first house I ever rented was built in 1910, on the top of a sand dune ,in what became Ocean View in Norfolk. It was a little 15X30 bungalow with one greatroom (kitchen/dining/living) and a nice big bedroom. It had no closets. There was a small 6'X8' addition on the back where a bath with a shower had been added. One severe winter we had a terrible freeze. Pipes froze up and burst under the house.The landlord was overwhelmed with repairs on his other rentals.I offered to fix the pipes for him,for a months free rent ( $75 IIRC), which he gratefully accepted .I dug my way along the piping ,repairing it as I went (the house was built about 12" above the sand, so I just tunneled along the piping). When I was at the back of the house, I realized that I would have to get to the last broken pipe under the bath from the outside, since the foundation cut off my access from under the house. I went out and dug a big hole to get to the pipe. Suddenly it opened up into a big pit. The bath had been built over the old out house pit, and the shower, sink, and toilet just drained directly down.....no drain pipes at all.... for the last 50 years or so. If the bath hadn't been built on a 12X12 cement patio, it would have fallen in the huge hole that had formed over the years. I sealed up the hole I dug, and notified the landlord that I was moving.

Stacy

 

[Dan Gray]

The black pipe is called abs around here. Same wall thickness as sch. 40
Comes in all standard sizes that pvc comes in.
They make adapters for anything from 4 inch to 1 1/2" and then a compression fitting on the opposite end for the tailpipe coming from the shower/sink or what have you.
The plumbing at a holiday inn won't teach you much.

Fred

interesting what different parts of the country use..
the only Black 4" pipe I've seen use around here was in my grandmothers old house and it had one 4" black PVC pipe not the ABS, coming though the basement wall from the septic tank,, you know made of the same stuff as the PVC long coiled stuff and slicker then a juicy fart :barf:
the household sch 40 would not stick to it worth anything and kept popping off ,, messy sh!t when it does that you know I ended up using 3 sheet rock screws around it to hold the ABS on to it.. and then seal it.

Hey Fred you'll be surprised what you can learn from a holiday inn if you dig deep enough

 

[Bufford]

Thanks for the input;

I dug further back into the wall, and managed to remove a few feet of cedar panneling without destroying it too much and it paid off. I came to the end of the run of the brass drain line where it goes into the black ABS drain trap and into the main sewer to the septic. Now it's going to be all the same pipe.

 

[Robert Mayo]

Bufford
Look under your sink you need the same type of compresion fitting that is on there
so you can change or fix it if need be.

Bob