Pocket knives for X-country Motorcycle trip.

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In the late 1990's I was starting to get a bit burned out on the sport of motorcycling. I'd been at it since 1967, and I was thinking of calling it quits. I'd started off with a little Honda super 90 in 67 just to get around, got bit by the bug, and after two more bigger Honda's went and got a BMW. I ended up having three beemers before I made the mistake of buying a Harley.

In the fall of 2000 I'd made up my mind that I could'nt quit untill I did a cross country ride. I'd ridden all over this country, but never at one time. I rode in Texas when I was stationed there, as well as Missouri and Massachusetts, and Germany, but never started on one coast and not stop till I hit the other.

I took leave from my job, told Karen to hold down the fort, and off I set for the Pacific out someplace where the sun sets. I'd spent a few weeks planning and thinking what gear I was going to take with me. I had to travel light with only what fit in my pockets, or in the T-bag on the sportsters low sissy bar. The Willie and Max saddlebags were for a small supply of can goods, a pot, and a small collaspable sterno stove. I made a decission to leave my gas Optimus backpacking stove behind as the sheet metal sterno one was flat, and I could get more sterno at any Safeway or food store.

Of course I agonized over what was going in my pockets. I wanted to choose just one pocket knife for the trip. I had a couple of thoughts on my mind; one was I was going to be very far from home, and I may be passing some police personel who may not like wandering Harley riders drifting through their jurisdiction. Also if something did happen, and I had to be searched, I did'nt want to look like a candidate for serial killer with half a dozen knives on me. The non-knife collecting public just does not understand. I did not want to leave anything on the bike that was not replaceable at the next box store, as I would be leaving the bike with all its gear alone while I went in various museums along the way, like Bent's Old Fort, the John Browning museum in Utah, the Mountain Man museums in both Nebraska and Colorado. As it turned out, the American people proved most trustworthy all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, not one item disappeared from the bike durring the trip.

I ended up taking my small yellow Case CV sodbuster. It was sturdy, exellent cutting just short of Opinel level, looked innocent with it's yellow handle, and was just big enough to handle slicing soughdough rolls for spam sandwiches, split damp kindling, and other camp chores. Since I had a P-38 on my keyring and a regular tool kit in the front tool bag on the bike I did without my sak. If I needed something for really heavy duty, there was a very sharp Ontario 12 inch machete in my T-bag for camping duty. I took it out just before I left and hacked a bunch of fresh boughs with it so it had sap smears on it and looked well used.

Once I was west of the Missisipi, I camped out on BLM land. Out west I would just pull off the road an hour before sunset and slowly ride the sportster back into the scrub juniper and sage brush and find a level spot well away from the road to put up my little nylon tent. A small fire to heat a can of chille was made easier by the soddie cutting branches from the sage brush. Other times I'd pick up a small steak from a grocery store at a town I was passing by, and with the soddies help cut it into cubes to put on a spit over a low fire. The spit was cut with the soddie.

I think this was the first time since I was a kid, that I was carrying just one single knife. I also think it was this trip that started the bug in me for the downsizing I would do over the next couple of years. Day after day, the Harley ate up the miles, and I was on the road for several hours a day. I avoided all the major interstates, taking the two lane state roads and enjoying the America one does not see from the big roads. Ten days after leaving my home on the east coast, I rolled out on a pier in Bay City Oregon. Looking down through the gaps in the planks at the water underneath, I figured this was as far west as I was likely to get without some really big water wings for the sportster. All in all, I was three and a half weeks on the road. I found out how cold it gets in the Rocky mountains in the fall, how hot it can be on the Kansass plains in early September, and how wet the Oregon coast can be. I was glad I had a good Dry Rider brand rain suit.

But most of all I loved having the experiance of getting by for three and a half weeks with just the one knife I took with me. It made me feel like I understood a little more how our grandads got by with just one knife. I found myself being a little more carefull of how I used it, taking a moment to think about what I was doing. And carefully wiping it off on the leg of the jeans or a bandanna afterward. Sometimes sitting in the evening and watching the stars come out and having a nip from the flask, I'd carefully feel the edge, and if need be, give it a lick on the little diamond home in my wallet.

But most of all the trip made me appreatiate how well one can get by with very little.
 
Sounds like a nice trip. So did you find a favorite spot during your voyage across our great country?
 
Vey interesting, jackknife...thanks for sharing.

Your stories either get put me in a very relaxed state of mind or get me thinking intently about the utility of knives. I'm a fan of the Wilderness/Survival forum, and among the frequent knife topics there is "Can knife X baton/split wood?" Interesting to know that a small Case soddie can.
 
Cool ride report.

I haven't ridden completely cross-country like that, but I did a 3400 mile trip from NM to Ill. to Tenn. and back to NM. Drove two-lane back roads the entire time, staying clear of Interstates. Saw a lot of country where not many other travelers wander. And I'm always suprised by how inquisitive and friendly people are to motorcyclists.

My motorcycle carry knife is an AG Russell Hunters Scalpel, same as my outdoor knife. Small enough to be comfortable for pocket carry, and securely attaches to my belt with a lanyard.

-Bob
 
Sounds like a nice trip. So did you find a favorite spot during your voyage across our great country?

Several!

On the way back I retraced some of the trip Karen and I took only a couple years before in the Toyota. One spot I was winding my way along on this little road by the Canyonlands, in southeast Utah. The setting sun made the canyon walls turn all kinds of shades of blue, grey, purple, and pink, from the differing layers of the sedimentry rock.

I loved the oregon coast, even if it did rain on me alot. high bluffs and rocky cliffs overlooking the Pacific, with dark pine forrest right down to the rocky shore.

The great plains were awesome if you thought what it must have been like to cross them way back when. Hours, and even a day or two of just seeing more rolling plains to the far western horizon. I can't imagine what it must have been like for weeks or even months on a creaking seat of a conastoga wagon or a saddle, and then finally seeing the faint distant peaks of the rockies way out there on the horizon, and knowing they are still a hundred miles away.

Northern New Mexico and southern Colorado had a stark beauty to it. Brown rolling semi-desert with the high Sangre De Cristo's overlooking them.

But I confess to being a child of my upbringing. I found the west everytime I visit, a place of stark beauty, but I'm glad to get home to my eastern hardwood forest. I don't like the openess of the west, its hard on the eyes. I like my rolling hills covered with oaks, maples, poplars, sycamores. My idea of mountains are like the Shenendoahs and Smokies, and closer to home, the Catoctains. Covered by thick sheltering forest.

In 1997, Karen and I loaded up the Toyota with camping gear and duffle bags and had a great counter clockwise trip around the country. Bad Lands, Custer National Park, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonlands, Mesa Verde. It was an awesome trip in the car, but on a bike you get more of the feeling of vast distances, of the hugeness of the west. In the car you're a bit isolated from the experiance. If its hot, the AC is cooling you down. If it rains, you're cruising along in dry comfort listening to some Vivaldi on the sterio. On the bike, you're out in it, whatever IT is doing. You get hot, dusty, or cold and wet. You feel your surroundings, not just look at them.

We live in a beautifull country!
 
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Vey interesting, jackknife...thanks for sharing.

Your stories either get put me in a very relaxed state of mind or get me thinking intently about the utility of knives. I'm a fan of the Wilderness/Survival forum, and among the frequent knife topics there is "Can knife X baton/split wood?" Interesting to know that a small Case soddie can.

I think some of the people over on that forum are a bit overboard. In all my years outdoors I have very rarely needed to baton any wood, let alone need a stout 6 inch sheath knife. Even in Oregon where everything was damp, I took the sodbuster and simply peeled off the wet outer bark and maybe shaved the sticks some, but they burned quite well. I did baton a few of the one inch think sticks into quarters, but once the campfire was gong good, the peeled sticks that were just a bit damp under the bark dried and burned fast in the fire. The baton thing is like alot of things, overdone.
 
But I confess to being a child of my upbringing.
Same here. Despite the wondrous variety our country offers, I still find the luch tropical vegetation and clear blue seas of Hawaii the most beautiful. A lot of it probably has to do that I was born in a place with a similar environment and weather.
 
I think some of the people over on that forum are a bit overboard. In all my years outdoors I have very rarely needed to baton any wood, let alone need a stout 6 inch sheath knife. Even in Oregon where everything was damp, I took the sodbuster and simply peeled off the wet outer bark and maybe shaved the sticks some, but they burned quite well. I did baton a few of the one inch think sticks into quarters, but once the campfire was gong good, the peeled sticks that were just a bit damp under the bark dried and burned fast in the fire. The baton thing is like alot of things, overdone.

You always help me keep my "want knives" vs "need knives" in perspective, jackknife...Thanks!

I think people (myself included at times) want to baton. I don't know why.

Probably very few of us will need to baton (you clearly didn't!). Me...chances are I never will baton. I live and spend 95% of my time in Chicago for heaven's sake.

And yet...Do I wan't some sort of outdoorsy hunt/kill/cook a Grizzly bear/chop down a mighty oak kind of knife?....Sure do!

Do I need one?...Nope.
 
An impressive and enviable trip, no, VOYAGE! The changes in landscape and ecology is what is really captivating. My Euro equivalent would be to drive/ride from Grenada Southern Spain to Moscow Russia. That'd be interesting! Maybe in one of our tiny cars with no AC from the 1960s! Er, no. I'm over with roadside fiddling with engines.

Couple of points: In Europe everybody imagines that Americans are totally besotted by Harleys and would not touch any other bike! How do you rate Hondas and BMWs with your domestic legend?They're all fine machines in their differing ways in my view as is the humble Vespa from Italy! What is the minimum size engine for a transcontinental voyage?

I'd like to drive from Canada to Chile over 3 months, that would be a fantasy come true. Which car though.....here my Euro Japanese prejudices would take over. BMW or Toyota/Lexus or Nissan Patrol.

Onto knives: This is the WORST part of the whole thing. I couldn't travel from Finland to France/UK this summer without SIX knives min plus a Vic multi tool oh and Gerber hatchet and folding saw...this too to the UK where all or probably any of this in my own car in luggage could have resulted in a 5 year stretch in the Nick. Well, OK one knife it is. FIXED a Bark River Colonial Patch knife, appropriate on an American tour. Folding, CASE Mini-Trapper.Compact, useful 2 blades and easy to replace in the US-not so in Europe.

Thanks for the post, now I'm dreaming of an adventure. Maybe cross Europe in a 1960s Citroen 2CV or DS 19 for style. Where next?
 
An impressive and enviable trip, no, VOYAGE! The changes in landscape and ecology is what is really captivating. My Euro equivalent would be to drive/ride from Grenada Southern Spain to Moscow Russia. That'd be interesting! Maybe in one of our tiny cars with no AC from the 1960s! Er, no. I'm over with roadside fiddling with engines.

Couple of points: In Europe everybody imagines that Americans are totally besotted by Harleys and would not touch any other bike! How do you rate Hondas and BMWs with your domestic legend?They're all fine machines in their differing ways in my view as is the humble Vespa from Italy! What is the minimum size engine for a transcontinental voyage?

I'd like to drive from Canada to Chile over 3 months, that would be a fantasy come true. Which car though.....here my Euro Japanese prejudices would take over. BMW or Toyota/Lexus or Nissan Patrol.

Onto knives: This is the WORST part of the whole thing. I couldn't travel from Finland to France/UK this summer without SIX knives min plus a Vic multi tool oh and Gerber hatchet and folding saw...this too to the UK where all or probably any of this in my own car in luggage could have resulted in a 5 year stretch in the Nick. Well, OK one knife it is. FIXED a Bark River Colonial Patch knife, appropriate on an American tour. Folding, CASE Mini-Trapper.Compact, useful 2 blades and easy to replace in the US-not so in Europe.

Thanks for the post, now I'm dreaming of an adventure. Maybe cross Europe in a 1960s Citroen 2CV or DS 19 for style. Where next?


Willgoy, to address your question of perception of Americans besotment; you are absolutly right. I'm ashamed to admit it, but the Harley is one of the most popular bikes here. Even I had to try one much to my self disgust. You ask how do I rate Honda's and BMW's compared to the Harley? Having ridden three Honda's and three BMW's one Harley for me and One harley for Karen, and now a couple of Vespa Motorscooters for me and Karen, I rate the Harley as the biggest over rated, over priced, over hyped piece of chrome scrap iron I ever rode. They are a legend in their own minds and those of the brainwashed yuppys that worship them as some sort of status symbol. From 1967 to 1997 I rode Honda and BMW's all over. Never had a problem. From 1997 to 2002 when we sold both our bikes, the Harley was the only bike I had to call a tow for. More than once. In fact it let me down in Columbia Mo. on the way home from my crossing. Karen bought a new Harley in 1997, a superglide. It had to be towed twice. We both had electrical problems, leaking gaskets from the transmission, and dead batteries in the afternoon AFTER BEING RIDDEN TO SOMEPLACE! The damm things would start in the morning, but go dead when we came out from someplace from lunch! If I were EVER to get another motorcycle, the Harley would not even be a consideration. No way, no how. In the last 5 years we've been riding the Vespa's, we have not had one breakdown, or failure to start. I can only conclude that just about every two wheel machine on earth is better than a Harley. Whew, rant over. Harleys are a sore subject to me.

Where next?

I think crossing Europe in one of those little 2CV's would be a great adventure. I'm thinking of shipping my Vespa out to a dealer in California and riding it home, just for a final adventure before I get too old.
 
But I confess to being a child of my upbringing. I found the west everytime I visit, a place of stark beauty, but I'm glad to get home to my eastern hardwood forest. I don't like the openess of the west, its hard on the eyes. I like my rolling hills covered with oaks, mayples, poplars, sycamores. My idea of mountains are like the Shenendoahs and Smokies, and closer to home, the Catoctains. Covered by thick sheltering forest.

Funny how that works, because I'm almost the total opposite. Don't get me wrong, I like a good tree as well as the next guy - I don't think it's possible to grow up in Texas without air conditioning and not know the value of shade trees. However, I really prefer being able to see a lot of the sky, so real forests can make me kinda twitchy.

James
 
Got to love the long trips. :)

My honeymoon this last summer was pretty similar. Toledo to the Ohio River, through Wheeling, WV, and down to Blackwater Falls. Three knives between us, for a week of hiking in the Appalachians. The knives? A Ka-Bar short that was only for cooking duty, a Buck 112 and a SAK. All we needed, and more.
 
Thanks Jackknife for being outspoken there:D

Harleys LOOK nice I must say, but Honda make some beautiful Cruiser bikes as well and I suspect they won't be needing a tow unless damaged.

Vespas are an ICON:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Funny how that works, because I'm almost the total opposite. Don't get me wrong, I like a good tree as well as the next guy - I don't think it's possible to grow up in Texas without air conditioning and not know the value of shade trees. However, I really prefer being able to see a lot of the sky, so real forests can make me kinda twitchy.

James

Thats not hard to understand at all, you're not the opposite, just normal for you. It's all in what we grew up with. I know Texas, and I've been up to Austin when I was at Ft. Sam down in San Antonio. A lovely college town we went up to on occasion. If I grew up there I'd feel the same way about the sky. Texas has some big beautiful sky. We used to go out to Big Bend to camp in the National Park. By the time we got out around Sanderson and Marathon, we eastern boys had that "bug on a empty parking lot" feeling. It was beautifull country, but had a empty hard look to it. We knew deep down we were on unfamiliar ground. I know what you mean by twitchy. Out there I felt there was noplace to hide.:eek:

But I actually felt a little at home along the Guadalupe river. There was these beautifull stands of live oaks shading the river where we would fish, and have float trips down the river.

Its all in what we grew up with. I get a bit twitchy if I am too far from the water for too long.:D
 
True on the upbringing. Being raised until 16 in rural southern Ohio I ran in the hardwoods and the fields. Four seasons and my favorite would be fall, followed by spring. We also would go down to eastern Kentucky to visit family. I sure miss four seasons and hardwoods. My area of Ohio didn't have deer hunting until after I'd left. For us it was small game and coon hunting. Quail, rabbit, and squirrel, were the things we hunted. I sure miss roaming the woods with that old Stevens .22lr/.410 over & under. Even when we moved to the San Antonio area in 73, I hunted quail, rabbit, dove, and even the deer were hunted on the ground, at least by me.

I've done some long drives, to include a trip from Fairbanks, AK, to eastern Arkansas, to Spencer, MA. Unfortunately, I was in a rush to get to a new (2nd) wife and did the trip in record time. She wasn't worth it, trust me. I wish I'd taken plenty of time and stopped along the way at several places. I even left my old dog at my parents there on that island in the Mississippi river (the eastern AR part). I should have stayed there awhile too and just fished and been lazy.

On that trip I slept in the truck sitting up. I started out with a spot in the back where I could take out a couple of camp boxes and make space for me and my dog. Unfortunately, in that no-mans land between US Customs in AK and Canadian Customs, the small trailer I'd been towing broke the tongue. As it was it would have cost a day and more money that the trailer was worth to fix it. So, I unloaded most of the back of the truck and the trailer. I repacked a lot of stuff even further down. Picked out what I could live without, stuffed the truck, then dealt with the trailer. I put the rest of the stuff in the trailer, pulled the VIN and license plates, turned it toward the side of the road and with some unpleasant words, sent it over the side. I think my Boy Scout canteen was in there though. Bummer. With the camper shell covered truck bed packed to 1,095 lbs over capacity on my 3/4 ton, 4x4, '91 Silverado, complete with Grumman 19 foot freighter canoe on top, we headed on down the ALCAN. I'd pull the chow box out at meal and cook off an MRE for me and give the dog her own MRE, a pouch or two of the burger type stuff.

Until Alberta we would just pull off on a gravel bar and sleep at night. I'd toss my pillow on the cooler beside me on the seat and cover with a poncho liner and Ole Stephie would curl up on her side. I kept the doors locked and the key in the ignition. When it would get too cold, I'd run the truck enough to warm up things inside (window cracked a little) then turn in back off. We did set the tent up one night in B.C., but it was colder and more trouble that it was worth. Once we hit Alberta though things started, (shudder) getting civilized. We had to start stopping at rest areas and such. I started getting claustrophobic. Montana was refreshing after that.

Funny thing. The only knife I can recall carrying was my SAK Swiss Champ on my hip. I may have had a one hand opening, serrated SOG in a horizontal sheath. I had bought it in AK and was carrying it a bit too. Mostly for the horizontal sheath, ease of opening, and I used the serrations on rope and stuff. I think though I probably had that stuffed in my gear though. The only one I can remember carrying and using was the SAK.

Some memories there, even though I pushed the miles hard. Lot's of miles getting traveled right now all down he highways and byways of my memory. From my exploring on my battered old Allstate 106, Puchenelli Special as we called them, to cross country runs from post to post.

As Bob Hope used to finish a show with, "Thanks for the memories."
 
JK,
Coast to coast on a BEEMER...GREAT...on a SPORTSTER....WERE YOU NUTS! Or YOUNG ,IMMORTAL & .....Your back ,BUTT & KIDNEYS must have been killing you!!You are one heck of a man!:D
Take care,
Jim C lifton
 
Sounds like a great, back to basics trip. I am an avid motorcycle tourer and camper, but I have not yet gone cross country. In a few years when my baby daughter is older, it will be doable. In July I took a week long motocamping trip from CT down the Blue Ridge Parkway, and it was the finest riding road I can imagine. For cutting implements I had my personal version of a Nessmuk trio: a Spirit multitool, Bark River Mini Canadian, and a hatchet. All are infinitely useful and packable, none are likely to scare or offend anyone.
 
I think some of the people over on that forum are a bit overboard. In all my years outdoors I have very rarely needed to baton any wood, let alone need a stout 6 inch sheath knife. Even in Oregon where everything was damp, I took the sodbuster and simply peeled off the wet outer bark and maybe shaved the sticks some, but they burned quite well. I did baton a few of the one inch think sticks into quarters, but once the campfire was gong good, the peeled sticks that were just a bit damp under the bark dried and burned fast in the fire. The baton thing is like alot of things, overdone.

I found myself needing (?) to baton for the first time in my life a few weeks ago on another motorcycle trip, this time to a Kawasaki Concours rally in West Virginia. The campground in PA was soaked with rain, it was dark, and the only dry wood I had was big pieces of split cord wood. Being an imbecile, I hadn't brought my hatchet. My Mini Canadian was strong enough for such a task, but too short. With a little ingenuity, I could have figured out some other way, but I thought I'd give batoning a try.
 
JK,
Coast to coast on a BEEMER...GREAT...on a SPORTSTER....WERE YOU NUTS! Or YOUNG ,IMMORTAL & .....Your back ,BUTT & KIDNEYS must have been killing you!!You are one heck of a man!:D
Take care,
Jim C lifton

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It was not that bad, really. While I am extremly far from a Harley fan, the sportster is the most maligned model that Harley makes. The vibration is not near as bad as the Gold wing crowd would have you beleive. In fact I found the sportster to be nicer all around than Karens superglide. I took over Karens 1995 883 sportster in 1997 when her superglide came in. I was bored with my K75 beemer as it did not have the personality that my old boxer twins did. It was too smooth, little charater. One of the first things I did to it was to convert it to 1200cc. This actually made the engine smoother. At 60 to 65 it was a smooth slightly rumbling ride. /enough to let you know your riding a motorcycle, but not enough to bother you. And it handled alot better than the superglide. As I like to cruise the back roads rather than the interstate, this worked out just fine. Very comfortable in fact. Sometimes things can be too refined and loose the flavor of the thing.

Besides, one of my favorite shows was one called Then Came Bronson, about a guy on a red sporty cruising America. kind of a lone wolf version of Route 66. So there I was going off to cruise America on a red sporty. It did just fine, exept for needing to be towed into the dealer in Colombia Mo.

But if I could have one bike back, it would be my 84 R65. One of my big mistakes in life.:(
 
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