poncho-tarp pitches

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searching around the intraweb I wasn't able to find to much on pitching poncho-tarps- a little here, a little there- so I decided to put up some basic pitches this am and snap a couple of shots

first a poncho-tarp is a really versatile piece of kit- it can provide rainwear and shelter in the same day, packs small, doesn't weigh a lot and not overly spendy

knots/hitches- I know a lot of guys don't like fussing about w/ knots and I'm one of them :D I use three very basic knots/hitches the bowline, the tautline and the clove hitch- very easy to tie

All of my guy lines look the same, except length- I have two 6' lines (these are usually used in conjunction w/ my trekking poles), two 4' lines, two 3' lines and four 2' lines- all have a static loop in one (bowline) and an adjustable loop in the other (tautline). I carry eight stakes (two also do double duty w/ my wood stove).

guys/stakes

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with the poncho when used as a shelter you need to tie a knot w/ the hood (big hole in your shelter is not desirable :))

on to the pitches- there are three basic pitches:

a-frame
lean-to
1/2 pyramid

there are variations of each, but those are the main ones

the a frame is probably the most storm worthy of the three and can be pitched low to the ground in bad conditions and pitched further off the ground in better conditions

the way I do the a frame is stake out two corners of a short side (this will be undone, but helps at the other end) and then go to the opposite end, a clove hitch is tied to a trekking pole (this could just as easily be a stick, an oar, a tree, etc) and one end (bowline) is attached to the center end loop of the tarp, the other end (tautline hitch) is attached to a stake, I then stake out the corners (w/ one of the shorter guys) on that end. There is one more hitch, but it's extra easy:)- it's the girth hitch, this is how I attached the loop (bowline) end to the loop of the poncho/tarp-I move back to the opposite end and remove the stakes and repeat the same thing (I shorten this pole as this is my foot end)

once both ends are complete, I add two guys to the middle

here's how it looks from the head end

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side view

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again with any of these pitches you can vary the pitch to get the tarp lower or higher (you don't want it so low that you run out of room)

I'm going to show you a modified a frame as this one is pretty handy, it's constructed in the same manner w/ a few minor differences- I get one long side closer to the ground and then at the head end I move the trekking pole from the middle loop to the end loop- this basically makes a a frame at the foot end and kind of a lean to at the head end

it's also pretty easy to go back to a standard a frame if the weather starts getting nasty

front

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side

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the next pitch is the half pyramid, pretty easy/quick pitch and relatively storm proof (if you get the closed end to the wind/bad weather)

I start by staking down (three stakes) one of the long sides, go to the opposite side and in the middle of this side you will again clove hitch your trekking pole (stick, oar, etc) and attach the static loop end to the middle loop of the poncho, the adj end to a stake. Stake the corners of the same side (I use a shorter guy here). I go back to the other side and set up my other trekking pole to pull out of the hood section- this gives you more room.

from the front

mypyramidfront.jpg


from the side

mypyramidside.jpg


the last pitch is the lean to pitch, this is probably the least storm proof of the three, but still a good pitch in a lot of scenarios

I start by staking two corners of a long side (w/ shorter guys), move to the opposite side and attach guys from the trekking poles in each corner- you'll want a stick, tree, big rock or something on the opposite to pull the hood out a bit if possible

the front

myleantofront.jpg


side

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here's the main reason I'm so keen on a poncho tarp :D

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I luv Integral Designs gear!!!! I've a MK1 XL highly customized - rock solid in bad, bad weather.

Anyway, i used to pitch my poncho's like you've done in the 1st few pics, though used skinny bungee cords as tensioners (between trees or more solid posts).

Also, if was rainy, i'd use a nylon mesh hammock and set it up first (using taut-line hitches or use an in-line loop-pulley system) to keep off the ground. Then i'd string the poncho over it. However, i stayed very low to the ground - maybe slightly more than a meter.
 
Great pictures. Thank you for the ideas. Believe it or not, I bought my very first US military poncho yesterday at a surplus store ($10). Never owned one before. Also picked up a couple US WWII mess kits in as new condition. I needed them for my get out of town quick rubbermaid tub.

I saw this tarp looking thing on a high shelf and wondered what it was. Pulled it down to take a look. It was a body bag (unused of course). Bought it for $5. I'm going to have to play around with it a bit. If anyone has any bright ideas for using it other than its intended use, let me know.
 
Great pictures. Thank you for the ideas. Believe it or not, I bought my very first US military poncho yesterday at a surplus store ($10). Never owned one before. Also picked up a couple US WWII mess kits in as new condition. I needed them for my get out of town quick rubbermaid tub.

I saw this tarp looking thing on a high shelf and wondered what it was. Pulled it down to take a look. It was a body bag (unused of course). Bought it for $5. I'm going to have to play around with it a bit. If anyone has any bright ideas for using it other than its intended use, let me know.

Im guessing it might be waterproof,good for storing gear in a rain???
 
Im guessing it might be waterproof,good for storing gear in a rain???

Could make a decent footprint under a small tent or bivy with enough left over for a pack raincover. I've used GI ponchos to make spray covers for my canoes. It is a lot of sewing and seam sealing, but they work great.
 
Am I reading your scale right? 12 pounds for the set up? Would that be less than half the weight of a single person tent?

Thanks for the pics.
 
Great pics and options. Thanks. and the bowline diagram too, I've keep forgetting it, rabbit, hole, tree, oh rats, dogs got it, never worked for me too well. Love the clove hitch and tautline, thanks for keeping it simple. WD
 
Thanks for showing your pitches! I've thought about a poncho/tarp setup, but went with a bigger tarp instead. I don't do any through hikes, so I don't have to carry it very far, though.

Do you have any problems keeping your gear dry?


here are the basic knots (hitches) used- if I can do them- believe me anyone can :D

tautline

You might consider an adjustable grip hitch instead... I think it grips better (especially on wet cordage) but doesn't bind as much, so it's easier to untie. I also think it's easier to tie in the first place as well. YMMV.
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Do you have any problems keeping your gear dry?

With a small tarp there is always a little splash back, wind driven rain that gets in- I use a light bivy bag that has a good DWR finish so I stay nice and dry. Clothes are in a dry sack in the pack- anything else can get wet

If you can get the tarp setup low and into the prevailing wind, even in a heavy rainstorm things tend to stay pretty dry :)

I'll give that knot a go :)

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the poncho/tarp is an Integral Designs (8x5')- you can get them at a lot of online backpacking stores- also check out the GoLite one it's very similar. I think Equinox also has one, probably others as well. even if you don't plan on camping w/ it, it makes for a nice piece of kit for a day bag
 
Wow very informative and great pics! I'm gonna have to bookmark this one for future reference.
 
thanks gents, like I said I just didn't find much at all in the way of describing the various pitches searching- so figured I better break out the camera :)
 
Thanks for showing your pitches! I've thought about a poncho/tarp setup, but went with a bigger tarp instead. I don't do any through hikes, so I don't have to carry it very far, though.

Do you have any problems keeping your gear dry?




You might consider an adjustable grip hitch instead... I think it grips better (especially on wet cordage) but doesn't bind as much, so it's easier to untie. I also think it's easier to tie in the first place as well. YMMV.
Adjustable_grip_hitch_knot.png

+1 on the adjustable grip hitch.
 
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