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Possible fakes at gun and knife show

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Just got back from a show. While browsing I came across some Spyderco Natives that had Damascus blades. The handles didn't look right nor the boxes. No markings on blade either. He had them priced at $54 but said he would take $50. I passed on them because I wasn't sure. Does anyone know if these could have been real? I'm gonna kick myself if they were. But they just didn't seem right.
 
They are fake and still come up on eBay from time to time, just found this listing after a couple minutes of searching.
 
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The dam native is a classic fake...I've seen a couple fake striders at my local shows.
 
At our recent show a guy had a phony large sebenza that Stevie Wonder would've spotted. The seller knew it too... He had a price of $250 on it.
 
My buddy got a real delica 4 at a gun and knife show for 20 because a guy put a couple on a "anything for 20 table"
 
It's getting pretty out of control, and the fakes are getting really really good, the logos, boxes, paperwork etc. are all there, they are learning quickly and the quality is approaching even higher end mid-techs from what some reviews would suggest and they are using higher end blade steels now as well. They used to be pretty easy to spot, I've seen various reeve/hinderer/spyderco's that unless you were really an expert in that particular knife and all of it's various subtle changes you'd be hard pressed to spot it.

More and more of them are making it over here, it's pretty easy to find them from US based sellers now. I don't think it takes away much from the real sales of high end knives, someone that pays $100 for a fake hinderer would likely never spend $700 on the real thing anyway. The bigger concern is as good as many of the fakes are now even knife enthusiasts can't easily tell them apart unless you are a total expert in that exact model and it's entire version history, so unless you are buying new from a retail authorized dealer it's hard to know what you are really getting.
 
Last year i saw a fake XM at the gun show in Tampa. They knew it wasn't real and were selling it for either $90 or $100. I handled it and it felt like a decently made fake. I don't think it had Hinderer on it but i do think it said XM-something on it. Maybe the "blade steel", don't recall for sure though.
 
I don't think it takes away much from the real sales of high end knives, someone that pays $100 for a fake hinderer would likely never spend $700 on the real thing anyway.
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This same argument is made those who support software/movie piracy, and it doesn't stand in that arena either. Think of how many people out there think benchmade, spyderco, or hinderers are junk because they unknowingly bought counterfeits. That effects any future sales, and recommendations to others.
 
Sadness. All peddlers of fake stuff should be shot. Or maybe at least ashamed of themselves. Same goes for the purchasers. If you cannot afford the real stuff, save $$$ until you can. Or if you cannot, buy a real alternative. A real ZT0560 beats a fake Hinderer XM18 anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
 
stog75 said:
All peddlers of fake stuff should be shot.
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Yeah, that's a bit tough, and being ashamed isn't enough. It's dishonest as hell.
If somebody knowingly sells a fake but claims that it's real, then that's larceny. And for a Sebbie or Hinderer, you might just get up to grand larceny. I know, it's tough to prove.
It's about the same as turning back the speedometer of a car, in order to represent it as a newer vehicle and thereby sell it for a higher price...and I know that's a federal beef.
 
I felt like they were fake and actually made the comment to my wife as we walked away. Wish I had been 100% sure. I would have called him on them and see what he said. Probably wouldn't have done any good.
 
yeah I saw a 100 dollar counterfeit Microtech Halo 3. (It's been years since I saw one of those but they are still around.)
 
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