Possible Origin Of This Sword??

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abclovell

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I am thinking of purchasing these swords tomorrow but was trying to determine their origin....This is the only photo I have right now....The grips appear to be ivory and are carved....Lots of Latin words and one has an enameld coat of arms while the other is missing it....Interesting hilt but I cannot find another example....Any ideas
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Were I to guess, I would say that they are made by "Toledo Swords" , "Marto" or some knock off of the above. Probably with stainless steel blades, pot metal fittings and faux ivory grips. Clearer pictures would help confirm or reject the above suppositions. How much are you paying?
 
Similar sword from Marto

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It would appear that this one has a very similar pommel to the right hand sword above. Construction also appears to be the same.
 
I see the similarity in style....I will take a closer look today and listen to what the auctioneer says as to the origin....What kind of sword are these supposed to be?....Is it possible originals of this style exist?...Thanks!
 
abclovell said:
I see the similarity in style....I will take a closer look today and listen to what the auctioneer says as to the origin....What kind of sword are these supposed to be?....Is it possible originals of this style exist?...Thanks!
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There were certainly swords of this general form, that is single handed swords that were transitional pieces between the medieval sword and the complex hilted rapier. This general form is indeed typically considered "spanish." However, the blade geometries were entirely different, as was the assembly method of the hilt components. As I noted before I would be reasonably surprised if the originally posted swords were not stainless steel as well. There's always something new under the sun and I certainly do not know it all, but I would be very surprised if these were much more than say 35 years old, probably significantly less.
 
Looks like the swords that Franklin Mint in the UK used to sell for a lot of money for what was a cheaply made, but 'pretty', Toledo sword.
 
Hello,
One blason seems to be a catalan flag (a spanish country), dated on "Renaissance period".
 
I don't even see an functional edge on these. They look like 20 year old Marto, Toledo, swords.

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I'm curious to see if our poster bought them and even if he didn't what they went for at auction. I'm guessing less than 40 dollars?
 
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