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Despite initial photo appearances they are made in Pakistan and really no telling about that "D2".
They are priced very cheaply for a reason.
 
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knarfeng said:
"all goods worth price charged". If it sounds too good to be true. You can lay odds that it's false.
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Beat me to it! There's also the one that says there's no such thing as an uncompensated for midday meal or something like that...
 
Can't fake them pictures.......now who knows what might arrive in the mail.......although his feedback is good thinking back......some pretty knives for sure ~
 
I purchased this knife online a few years ago. It's unmarked, it having no brand or steel type on it.
But, I was drawn to it's hand crafted appearance and to it's hand done engraving.
It has the look of a knife that maybe a Riverboat Gambler would have kept for self defense, obviously not fitting any type of design that would be suited for much else.
Anyhow, it was listed as having walnut and camel bone on it's handle, and made of D2 steel.
Well, I knew that likely meant that it was made of a mystery steel, questionable heat treatment, and likely made in Pakistan.
It was priced at $100, and if the engraving was real, it was worth it to me to have it as a representation of a handicraft from that part of the world.
Sure enough, once I received it, it was obvious that it truly was an all hand crafted item. The engraving may not be what one would expect on, let's say, a custom engraved Peacemaker from Colt's Custom Shop, but it was still a nice representation of the skill that can be found in even the most undeveloped parts of the world that likely have no access to modern tools and facilities.
I really like having this knife in my collection, no regrets on buying it at all 😊

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I do run into a lot of Pakistan made knives at the local flea market, and they have thus far been the typical stuff, as in looking like they got made without any real pride... They being done to just get done.
I have yet to run into another that I would consider buying. I'm sure that there are more decent specimens are out there to be had, but most venders that sell them are looking for the "cheap as they can get them" from over there, so they are not likely the best of what may be available.
Also, I have not run into any dealers, besides the one I got mine from, that sell any having real hand chiseled engraving. Some are etched, but I've not run across any more with real hand done engraving.
I would imagine it took quite a few man hours to complete the engraving on both sides of my knife.
As for the handle having walnut and camel bone, well, the wood definitely seems to be a walnut.
The bone, while I am no expert on, would seem appropriate to actually be camel bone, as camels are likely more common than cows are in certain parts of the world 🐫

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The scariest thing I saw in those videos were the sword's tang stubs having those thin rod extensions welded onto them 😱

When it comes to Pakistan blades, hidden tangs are usually just that, a thin rod welded onto a stub tang 😱

On the other hand, those cleavers definitely had full substantial tangs.
 
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PocketKnifeJimmy said:
The scariest thing I saw in those videos were the sword's tang stubs having those thin rod extensions welded onto them 😱

When it comes to Pakistan blades, hidden tangs are usually just that, a thin rod welded onto a stub tang 😱
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The shame is that besides those they seem to have most of the equipment to make a functional sword as far as tempering, grinding and such. I guess you can't put a blingy handle on a full tang.
 
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The shame is that besides those they seem to have most of the equipment to make a functional sword as far as tempering, grinding and such. I guess you can't put a blingy handle on a full tang.
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Yeah, I just don't get the stub tang/welded on thin rod thing. Instead of a stub tang that needs a welded extension, why not simply avoid the stub length altogether and go for the full length tang?
Dunno, I just don't get it.

Even if they are to strictly be for wall hanging, which I think the swords shown in that video were meant for... It would not take much more effort for the tangs to be made a proper full length.
They obviously don't worry about getting sued and such, so their added on thin rod method is "good enough" in their eyes 😱

Btw, to be fair, I don't believe most China and Spain made "wall hanger" swords are constructed any better in the tang area.
The problem is, I don't believe they ever sell them with the warning that they are only for decoration, and to not be used as functional swords.
That's where they really screw up... They being sold to folks that believe it's okay to use them as fun tools, and where blades and/or tangs snap... With steel flying dangerously through the air... Eeek! 😱

I have shared this link before, showing that Windlass Steelcrafts still uses some very old school steel forging methods, and one can see that making the blade and tang as a one piece forged piece, doesn't entail much more effort at all...

 
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And just to add to the comments already stated, chances are these knives have no heat treatment whatsoever. And if they do, it is almost guaranteed that it was a crappy, inconsistent one.
 
Big red flag #1- Ebay.

Big red flag #2- Any knife described as "Custom Handmade" for under $100.

Big red flag #3- Ebay.



Of course any true quality, custom handmade knife with good steel and a good heat treat (quality) is going to cost well over $100.

And I'm not knocking Ebay the site, but rather the fact that many shady people use it to sell things of very questionable quality. I had a bad experience with a vendor on Ebay recently and Ebay got involved right away and I got satisfaction (full refund).
 
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PocketKnifeJimmy said:
Yeah, I just don't get the stub tang/welded on thin rod thing. Instead of a stub tang that needs a welded extension, why not simply avoid the stub length altogether and go for the full length tang?
Dunno, I just don't get it.

Even if they are to strictly be for wall hanging, which I think the swords shown in that video were meant for... It would not take much more effort for the tangs to be made a proper full length.
They obviously don't worry about getting sued and such, so their added on thin rod method is "good enough" in their eyes 😱

Btw, to be fair, I don't believe most China and Spain made "wall hanger" swords are constructed any better in the tang area.
The problem is, I don't believe they ever sell them with the warning that they are only for decoration, and to not be used as functional swords.
That's where they really screw up... They being sold to folks that believe it's okay to use them as fun tools, and where blades and/or tangs snap... With steel flying dangerously through the air... Eeek! 😱

I have shared this link before, showing that Windlass Steelcrafts still uses some very old school steel forging methods, and one can see that making the blade and tang as a one piece forged piece, doesn't entail much more effort at all...

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I own a few Windlass swords and while they aren't Albions they're fine for the price. Tempered, proper tangs and when flexed return to true, etc. These are from the MRL days, I haven't bought any since they've went solo but I assume they're as good as they ever were. Of course none of the Windlass swords are going to be marketed in BudK for $69, either.
 
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