Post heat treat fail

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I have been working on a knife for my brother in law. 1095 steel, spine was just under 3/16" thick. Took the edge down to .040" before HT, and had a pretty decent 400 grit belt finish on it prior to HT. Went to heat treat it this afternoon.

Ramped up the Evenheat to 1475, held for 15 minutes, then straight into brine for the quench. I moved the blade through the water to avoid the steam jacket, and when the bubbling stopped I removed the blade from the quench, tested it with my hand to see if it was cool enough to handle-which it was, and inspected the blade. It had a slight warp, but nothing I was really concerned about. It was all in one piece, and had no visual cracks that I could see. Grabbed a file and it skated along the edge. Admired it for a few more seconds, then decided to tap it on the bench top to see if there were was anything I was missing, and thats when it snapped the first 4 inches off the blade. I did not tap it that hard, or so I thought. I do not know if it was cracked prior, or simply because it was glass hard and I wacked it harder than it could take at that hardness (somewhere around 67-68 RC?). But anyways, pictures below showing the fail, for your enjoyment.
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Dang.

Temper it and make a little knife out of the handle stub. Won't get your money out of it, but better than a total loss.
 
It'd make a good wharncliffe now. You probably hit it harder then you think. Thought I cant be sure from the picture the grain looks a little large no?
 
1095 in brine= Hard as a woodpeckers lips..
temper first, then test..Sorry to see that..
 
I plan on making something out of the handled stub. The broken tip will go in the box of shame.

Not sure about grain size. I have nothing to compare it to.

Lesson learned, the hard way.
 
Dont feel bad, I learned the hard way too..Made a knife from a file. Water quenched and tried to clean it up before temper with a wire brush..Broke in my hands..There were no cracks before I tried to clean it..
 
Look at a freshly quenched knife just like it was your newborn son. In time you may be playing football with him, but 60 seconds after birth is a bad time to grab him and toss him around.

Once the blade cools and comes out of the quench......Don't Do Anything To It.Temper all blades immediately after quench. I know we all run a file down the edge right out of the quench, but even that is metallurgically a bad idea.
 
I broke one almost the same way except I don't have a heat treat oven, I was using my ghetto-fish-cooker forge. 1095 with a brine quench, edge was too thin. After quench I saw the blade was slightly warped, I tried to flex it just a tiny bit with the tips of my fingers and it snapped. Oh well, it was too thin and warped anyway. Live and learn.
 
Don't even file test it until after the first tempering cycle, this happens too often and just for the sake of an hour in the oven.
 
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