Preserving fire

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I'm looking for a homestead level technique for keeping one's fire going so one doesn't need to re-light all the time, yet one does need to conserve wood or other fuels.

What is the equivalent of an airless stove that would keep coals going for the maximum time possible.

Thanks.
 
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking...

However, we burn wood for all of our heating needs. After burning a load of wood, we bank the coals against the side of the stove. It is best to do this while the coals are still large pieces. If you want extra time, you can also put in a medium-size piece of hard wood into the stove and cover this with your red hot coals. Then choke down the air intake to minimal flow(you may need to experiment here).

You will have live coals in your stove for 8-12 hours or so. Use a metal coal shovel to pull apart the banked coals in order to expose the glowing red coals that have survived the night- then put on medium-size dry wood to get the fire going again.
 
Protactical said:
What is the equivalent of an airless stove that would keep coals going for the maximum time possible.

I think (but I'm not sure) the answer you're looking for is simply a can full of ashes.

I grew up with a woodstove in the house. We would have to empty out the ashes tray from the bottom of the woodstove into a metal pail. The metal pail would sit for several days before we would then carry it into the woods to dump the ashes. The reason we allowed the ashes to stay in the metal pail for several days before dumping was because there were live coals in the ashes that could easily start a forest fire. Sometimes for fun my brother and I would gather leaves and start little fires in the metal pail from the live coals buried in the ashes.

So I think if you just collect coals from a fire and keep them buried in ashes, you'll be able to re-start a fire in any 24-48 hour period. You'll still need some tinder of course.

I think native Americans would carry coals in their nomadic movements from one site to another in order to preserve their fires. Beats the old bow-drill method.
 
akennedy73 said:
....I think native Americans would carry coals in their nomadic movements from one site to another in order to preserve their fires. Beats the old bow-drill method.
This seems to have been the case in prehistoric Europe too, judging by the equipment found with Oetzi the Ice Man.

"...A birch-bark box contained charcoal wrapped in maple leaves (possibly a method of carrying smoldering coals to start a fire, since no fire-starting flint was found)."

http://www.answers.com/topic/oetzi-iceman

With regard to household fires, the expression "curfew" is believed to be derived from "couvre feu", referring to the practise of covering up fires to keep them smouldering through the night.
When I had an open coal fire, I found that a good-quality anthracite would keep burning through the night without any special attention, though putting a shovelful or two of slack or coal dust and bits at the back of the fire would ensure a glow which could be built up the following morning.
Wood is a different matter though!

Andy
 
Larry Dean Olsen's book _Outdoor Survival Skills_ has a couple of pages on keeping fire. The one that I remember best was sort of like an oversized fat cigar, with a core of wood coals, wrapped in increasingly-thick bark, finished off with a wrapping of fairly thick bark strips. If I remember correctly--and it's been a while--he may have said something about how long this setup would last; the idea was to stop, start a new fire, and prepare a new fire-carrier whenver one's old one was on the verge of losing its viability.

As I think about it, for your more-stationary setting, you might do best just digging a pit and building a sizeable fire in it, and then experimenting a bit with how much air needs to be let in to keep it going. I know they used to make charcoal in commercial quantities back in the 1700s by building, semi-burying, and lighting piles of wood; the wood would burn to charcoal over several days' time. I think that process required some high degree of watchfulness, lest the fire either go out or roar into full force. Also, if you use the "pit" method, take care to keep kids, etc., from trying to walk across it.

Good luck!
 
some military survival manuals out there describe a fire bundle where in the center you have a hot coal or punk wood that smolders, surrounded by a protective shell.
 
The easiest 'slow match' if you have access, is the female flowerhead of the Cattail (Typha spp.). A 6 inch head will smoulder for about 2 hours. Other easy 'slow matches' are True Tinder Fungus (Inonotus obliquus) and False Tinder Fungus (Fomes fomentarius).

Doc
 
Slightly damp dung (cowpie) can create an ember to relight your fire in the morning.
- courtesy of Survivorman episode filmed in Utah's Canyonlands slickrock country -

Given that a number of indigenous cultures around the world use dry dung as a fuel, this makes sense.
 
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