Prevent contamination while storing / using a strop?

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I just received my Bark River double sided strop with the black and green compounds and I'm wondering how you guys keep them from being contaminated.

I've seen posts that say dust and other material can mess up the polish you're trying to achieve. Being a double sided strop, what do you guys rest the opposite side on while using? Also, how do you store it to avoid foreign matter and dust from messing it up?

Thanks for the help!
 
I normally keep my strops in a ziplock bag, but that might be a problem for a double-sided strop.
 
I just loosely wrap my double-sided strop with a paper towel and keep it in a drawer.
 
The first strop I ever tried, was a 4-sided strop 'bat' (3 grades of leather & compound, plus a stone). Had a handle at one end, and came in a paper-lined slipcase. The compounds used were different colors (black, red, white), so the paper lining had been colored somewhat, for each side. I was always careful to put the block back in the slipcase so the colors matched up. When using it, I quickly developed a habit of using it somewhat upright, at an angle, held by the handle at the upper end. I never (or seldom) laid it flat on the counter, as I was always concerned about dirt & such.

I don't use that one anymore. Prefer to use single-sided strop blocks, which I've made for myself. Even so, I've become less concerned about the 'PERFECT' polish, so I don't worry as much about extraneous dust. I usually just give it a quick wipe with a paper towel, or even swipe it across my jeans before using it, just to get rid of the BIG particles (I can usually feel those, like tiny speed bumps under the blade). If I were really concerned about the dust or other cross-contamination, I'd likely keep it in a zip-loc, as suggested earlier. And if using a double-sided strop, put a clean (new) paper towel underneath it, if laying it down. Even at that rate, it won't take long for the dust to settle on 'em. It'll getcha' eventually.

I've also been experimenting with using alternate media for stropping. I've found, with compounded stropping anyway, a lot can be done with a simple sheet of clean paper (printer paper, for instance) with compound applied to it, laid atop my regular strop block. If it gets a bit too dirty for my tastes, I just toss it. Another possibility is stropping on balsa, or other wood. When it gets dirty or loaded up, just sand it clean & start over (which works pretty well with compounded leather, too).
 
Hang vertical and wipe with your hand before every use.
 
If you strop Titanium use a dedicated strop for it, it will contaminate the leather and scratch your other knives.

I doubt many people strop Ti anyways but I wouldn't want anyone ruining a nice strop over it.
 
Thanks for the tips, guys. I tried it out last night on some knives that had not recently been sharpened, and some that had just come off the edge pro to the 3k tape.

The less sharp knives definitely improved going from the black then to green, but I could not detect an improvement on the 3k knives. I'm sure much of that is technique and learning to maintain the proper angle and pressure. I'll give it some more work, but I'll also look into the balsa with compound on an ep blank.
 
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The more I do it, the more I realize how ALL the variables, in an infinite number of possible combinations, make a difference (good or bad). Technique, type of abrasive, size and aggressiveness of the abrasives in relation to each other, the type, thickness, smoothness, texture of the backing (leather, wood, paper, fabric) all make a difference. Finding just the right, perfect combination, in the right sequence, with the right technique, right pressure, etc., are what make it so challenging and fun. Pick a different steel, or a different desired edge finish, and the perfect stropping recipe changes again.
 
I don't worry about dust on my strops so much as cross contamination from other compounds. We're dealing with really small particle sizes and using progressively smaller, finer compound to improve our edges. Getting some larger grit particles onto a finer strop can really screw up the finish. The idea of a double sided strop absolutely boggles my mind, to say nothing about those four-sided ones! Unless they are hung up when not being both used and stored, to me, they are worse than useless! Lay one down on a bench, then turn it over, and you've completely screwed up the particle size! Considering the fact that we can make four large bench strops for under $15, there is no reason to muck about with the smaller double sided ones for $25+. If I'm going to stick them into my storage closet, I'll throw a clean cloth over them, or a sheet of cling film, just to keep them a bit cleaner.


Stitchawl
 
I store them in a plastic bag.

In my experience, double sided strops aren't worth the bother to prevent contamination. I use single sided strops only.

If I used a double sided strop, I would wrap it in a clean paper towel before placing it in the plastic bag.
 
I wrap mine in plastic wrap like you find in most kitchens. I do not use double or multi-sided strops.

I also clean the knife between steps. This is not often discussed, but I wonder how many people just go from one strop to the next...these multi-sided bats would sure make that easy to do.

If you do not care about dragging contaminants from relatively coarser-loaded strops, to relatively finer-loaded strops...why use the finer compound?
 
The first strop I ever tried, was a 4-sided strop 'bat' (3 grades of leather & compound, plus a stone). Had a handle at one end, and came in a paper-lined slipcase. The compounds used were different colors (black, red, white), so the paper lining had been colored somewhat, for each side. I was always careful to put the block back in the slipcase so the colors matched up. When using it, I quickly developed a habit of using it somewhat upright, at an angle, held by the handle at the upper end. I never (or seldom) laid it flat on the counter, as I was always concerned about dirt & such.

I don't use that one anymore. Prefer to use single-sided strop blocks, which I've made for myself. Even so, I've become less concerned about the 'PERFECT' polish, so I don't worry as much about extraneous dust. I usually just give it a quick wipe with a paper towel, or even swipe it across my jeans before using it, just to get rid of the BIG particles (I can usually feel those, like tiny speed bumps under the blade). If I were really concerned about the dust or other cross-contamination, I'd likely keep it in a zip-loc, as suggested earlier. And if using a double-sided strop, put a clean (new) paper towel underneath it, if laying it down. Even at that rate, it won't take long for the dust to settle on 'em. It'll getcha' eventually.

I've also been experimenting with using alternate media for stropping. I've found, with compounded stropping anyway, a lot can be done with a simple sheet of clean paper (printer paper, for instance) with compound applied to it, laid atop my regular strop block. If it gets a bit too dirty for my tastes, I just toss it. Another possibility is stropping on balsa, or other wood. When it gets dirty or loaded up, just sand it clean & start over (which works pretty well with compounded leather, too).

I had one of those I got at a drafting store when I was in High School in the late 1970's... I lost it when the city came and tore my house down, when I was out of town!(Long story) I have been trying to find another one for a while... Does yours still have the label on it with the brand? The cardboard slipcase is blue with a bumpy texture right? And the paper liner is 'kinda' yellowish??? I seem to remember that it had a Japanese, or Chinese logo on the case...
If you can find it please tell me so I can find another one... I see 4 sided ones all the time, but not one with that VERY smooth(almost like a black hard Arkansas stone, but with that felt more like 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper)...
Come to think of it, I got my surgical black hard Arkansas stone at that same drafting store too... That thing felt like a piece of glass and had not visibly worn any in the last 40 years... And for at least 4 of those years it was used daily to keep a Gerber pocket knife that I was given to keep an edge that I used to shave with...
 
I had one of those I got at a drafting store when I was in High School in the late 1970's... I lost it when the city came and tore my house down, when I was out of town!(Long story) I have been trying to find another one for a while... Does yours still have the label on it with the brand? The cardboard slipcase is blue with a bumpy texture right? And the paper liner is 'kinda' yellowish??? I seem to remember that it had a Japanese, or Chinese logo on the case...
If you can find it please tell me so I can find another one... I see 4 sided ones all the time, but not one with that VERY smooth(almost like a black hard Arkansas stone, but with that felt more like 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper)...
Come to think of it, I got my surgical black hard Arkansas stone at that same drafting store too... That thing felt like a piece of glass and had not visibly worn any in the last 40 years... And for at least 4 of those years it was used daily to keep a Gerber pocket knife that I was given to keep an edge that I used to shave with...
The one pictured below from Knifecenter is the closest to what I described - it's German made (Solingen), and mine also came from Germany. Maybe the same model, but it's been many years sinced I ordered it. Pretty sure I got it through Knifecenter as well. They're an approved Blade Forums sponsor member, so I think it's OK for me to post the link here - it's directly above the image. Mine is currently stored away somewhere, but I'll see if I can dig it out and check the brand & labeling. It does have a razor honing stone as well, which I'd forgotten about. Unusual stone - it's very soft and a sharp edge will take shavings from it, so I believe it was intended to be used in an edge-trailing manner - most likely for aligning & deburring a very fine edge. I've read that soapstone is sometimes used in this manner, and I'd bet that's what mine is.

Edited to add (01-SEP-2024):
I dug mine out and took a couple photos, including the slip case and a look at the stone on one side. They're added below the first photo.

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Bumping this thread to point out I added a couple pics to my previous reply above^ to a question regarding my 4-sided strop block.
 
I put my double sided into a large ziploc bag. I label each side of the bag with the grit size, so that I can always put the strop back in with each grit always facing the same side of the bag. Not perfect but seems to be working so far.
 
Double sided strops will always cross-contaminate, no matter how adamant you are about storage, it's just the nature of the beast. Heck, even double-sided diamond/cbn sharpening plates often come cross-contaminated from the factory, even from reputable manufacturers.
 
I have and love my Stropman billy strop... R.I.P.😥..........
It hangs on A nail with.other tools just hanging out waiting for work!!😉
 
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