Price Of Ivory?????

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Can anyone verify this statement that was made to me. That, ivory (whale's) sells for $150 an ounce up to a one pound piece and after that is goes by the piece itself so it could even cost more an ounces. He said that it is basically how diamonds are sold.
THANKS IG
 
George,
I have never heard of whale's teeth being sold by the ounce. If they are sold like diamonds, then are they graded and the ones of lesser quality cheaper? I think that the price would go up because they are becoming more scarce but I think by the ounce is a little extreme. Are they being sold on the black market by the ounce? :D :) :rolleyes:
 
Syl: Knowing you, you are trying to pull them while they are alive and swimming. Duh, wait till they are dead.:eek: :p :D :D
Chuck: The price sound way high to me. The dude had over 15 teeth and everyone had the ounces that they weighted on them.
 
Can't say about whale but elephant can still be had for $50.00 a pound. That's what I heard anyway, I wouldn't have any way of knowing what it really brings on the black market!:rolleyes:
 
I'd like to see what Chuck Leake would say about it. Wonder where he's at. Haven't seen him around lately.

RL
 
To be honest George, I got real sick for a while. Partly from grinding without a mask that will seal this ugly beard and partly from being OLD!
While getting over that, I started building muzzle loaders and time just slipped by. Gouge called one day to see if I was still alive and that got me started back in knives. I still haven't done much grinding but have been forging some. Made a dandy little sword a few weeks ago.
 
Hey I am still here.I do not have much to do with whales teeth the last I heard they were $100 per LB but that was 15 years ago.The problem is they cannot be shipped across state lines.
Chuck
 
Peter, I guess we will have to have a ugly sword contest.:D :D :D
Chuck: Can someone attain a license for dealing teeth over a state line???
 
Hi George....Sit down and get ready to cry. A while back I stopped at a garage sale and spotted a whale tooth amongst some junk. My heart stopped cause I didn't have any money on me. I casually asked what the lady wanted for it and damn near fainted when she said 50 cents. I did the best be cool and don't get excited act possible and asked if she would hold it for me for a couple of minutes while i went to my truck. I rummaged through the ashtray and under the seat and came up with 53 cents. After completing the sale I waited until I was about a 1/4 mile away and let out a yell that probably woke the dead.
The tooth was a beauty about about 3 1/2" long. I gave it to a good friend and well known knifemaker who could do it justice.
Oh yeah that was 50 cents Canadian so it was only about 30 cents in real U.S. money.

I do admit to feeling slightly guilty but damn what a high.

Jim Ziegler
 
George im not sure on the price of ivory,but the next time I get one of these suckers you can bet i`ll skin it and send it on up to ya.


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Hey, J. Looking good down in Florida. Get a bigger one and send the tail meat too. I know it taste like chicken.:D :D Tell Sandra that Helen and I said Hi.
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Jim: You some lucky there Dude.:D :D :D
 
George,

By the pound or by the ounce, the price still comes out in the wash. To be able to use it legally on a knife handle becomes more of the issue.

At one point, there were only 52 federal permits allowing sale of Sperm Whale's teeth in interstate commerce (we're talking late 70's/ early 80's). A person buying teeth through one of these permit holders could resell the teeth as a subsequent purchaser, once his teeth were registered as such through the proper channels in Washington. (Are we having fun yet? Hang on, it gets better).

No tooth could be sold in raw form as, at one point, all the tooth had to have was "scrimshaw" on it. Then the law was changed requiring significant scrimshaw coverage on the tooth.

The tooth had to be bought within your resident state and, in turn, only sold within your resident state. This allowed disposal of remaining inventories without undue hardship. As I understood it, you couldn't (1) buy an illegal tooth anywhere and re-sell it legally be it on a knife or otherwise, (2) if you bought it legally within your own state, you could resell it in your own state, but (3) if you bought it legally but transported it across state lines back to your residence, you could only keep it for "personal consumption", and not re-sell it.

Having been in this business now since the late 70's, I was exhibiting at the Knifemaker's Guild Show in Kansas City that year when the federal agents raided the show and confiscated all the whale's teeth knives that they deemed illegal. The two agents came through dressed as maintenance workers and inventoried all the whale's teeth knives before tagging and bagging them. After this incident, I called the folks in D.C. to find out the legal scoop on it all and actually ended up speaking with one of those agents. Go figure.

Since you live in Bedford, you're at a locale with as good a remaining supply of teeth as there probably is anywhere in the U.S. Just make sure what current legal requirements are regarding who you're purchasing from and so forth and you may be ok to turn them on a knife.

All my teeth I bought back in the late 70's/early 80's were registed with the DOC in DC at that time as a subsequent purchaser but I've just held onto them as they're so cool and unique. Don't forget, the old original whaler's scrimshaw art on whale's teeth is considered one of only two indigeneous art forms in the U.S., along with cave paintings in the desert southwest. Overseas, particularly in the Orient, whales teeth were being ground up for fertilizer by the front-end loader fulls, while over here they looked like Christmas gifts with all the red tape encircling them.

That's my 2 cents on all this.

Jim
 
Thanks Jim H. Damn that is a pain in the butt. Most of the captains in fleet here through the whale bones and teeth back overboard if they drag them up, just for the reasons you stated. Since we were the whaling capital of the world at one time you can't find that many teeth around here.
 
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