Recommendation? Pro Leather tools

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Hello everyone , what would you recommend for premium leather tools?
Most importantly I am looking for top notch pricking irons , edge bevelers and half moon knife.
I was looking at tandy leather but they just tend to sell higher end Chinese stuff for their pro line.
Also looked at weaver leather but their half moon knife seems kinda too pricey at 250$ and they dont have pricking irons
I have a few tools by ivan tools , can someone recommend their half moon knife and pricking irons?
Any other advices are welcome as well
Thanks
 
Another name for a half-moon knife is a head knife. May find additional options searching that. Etsy seems to have a bunch.
 
I thought I saw Horsewright selling these knives on his website in the past....not there now though.
 
I am also looking at vintage stuff , is CS Osborne a good maker? seems to be a lot on ebay
 
Instead of Pricking Irons my Dad uses a Dremel Drill Press. He uses a Stitching Wheel to lay out hole spacing then just drills 1/16" holes really fast and easy for his old tired hands.

Barry King Tools and CS Osborn when you can find them are good investment for long term use! I have no experience with EURO Tools and their quality.
 
Howdy guys , sorry I'm late to the party.

I use to make roundkinves but don't anymore. Here's an excellent WIP on building your own. Lots of imput from Paul Long and myself and TK knocks it out of the park:


Be very careful grinding them. The reason I don't make them anymore is I have three different shirts with slices on the ribcage, Thats with me standing to the side of the grinder while grinding and I've done lots and lots of them. Still the beechs try to kill ya. If I were to go out to buy a high quality roundknife right now I'd look at Leather Wrangler's offerings. Not used one but have heard good of em.

Leather tools are kinda a funny thing. Sometimes the cheapie tool works better than the expensive "good" tool, sometimes the best tool is best and sometimes the middle of the road deal works great. My recommendations are based on years of pro use.

Already took care of the roundknife for ya. Pricking irons I have no experience with. They come more from a European tradition of leatherworking and aren't really used in a western tradition. In western type leather work they are replaced by a stitching wheel that marks where the holes are to be punched. Pricking irons are meant to be used the same way for marking where the holes are to be punched later using an awl. You will sometimes see folks using them like a chisel and trying to make the holes in the leather with them. This will work on some lightweight leathers but not on sheaths. I have used many edgers from the most expensive to the least expensive. I do like the Weaver's and they work well, its what Paul uses. Day in and day out I keep coming back to the Osbornes. They are mid priced but work well. I use the Western Bent Tip Edgers from them. Easy to sharpen and they just work well. If sheaths are on the menu, you'll find an Osborne #4 in my hand. Their roundkives suck but I like their edgers.

Lots of folks have mentioned Barry King and we use a lot of their tooling stamps. In fact they are all that the wife will use. I'm not quite as picky but even still I bet ya 98-99% of the tooling stamps I use say Barry King on em.

Roundknife:

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Roundknife, push skiver and a Paul Long Skiver:

SugIHat.jpg


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Flower carving on a pancake sheath by the wife:

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Some of the oak carving that I do:

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We have two sewing machines a Cobra 18 for light work like these Horseshoe Coasters she made for the studio that produces Yellowstone:

ma4ITEW.jpg


4dXainK.jpg


And a heavier machine, a Cobra 4 for sheaths, holsters, tack etc. Working on the Cobra 4:

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WvUrdWX.jpg


vMdzEk2.jpg


g3X2VCU.jpg


Anyhoo kinda our take on the deal. Hope this helps.
 
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Howdy guys , sorry I'm late to the party.

I use to make roundkinves but don't anymore. Here's an excellent WIP on building your own. Lots of imput from Paul Long and myself and TK knocks it out of the park:


Be very careful grinding them. The reason I don't make them anymore is I have three different shirts with slices on the ribcage, Thats with me standing to the side of the grinder while grinding and I've done lots and lots of them. Still the beechs try to kill ya. If I were to go out to buy a high quality roundknife right now I'd look at Leather Wrangler's offerings. Not used one but have heard good of em.

Leather tools are kinda a funny thing. Sometimes the cheapie tool works better than the expensive "good" tool, sometimes the best tool is best and sometimes the middle of the road deal works great. My recommendations are based on years of pro use.

Already took care of the roundknife for ya. Pricking irons I have no experience with. They come more from a European tradition of leatherworking and aren't really used in a western tradition. In western type leather work they are replaced by a stitching wheel that marks where the holes are to be punched. Pricking irons are meant to be used the same way for marking where the holes are to be punched later using an awl. You will sometimes see folks using them like a chisel and trying to make the holes in the leather with them. This will work on some lightweight leathers but not on sheaths. I have used many edgers from the most expensive to the least expensive. I do like the Weaver's and they work well, its what Paul uses. Day in and day out I keep coming back to the Osbornes. They are mid priced but work well. I use the Western Bent Tip Edgers from them. Easy to sharpen and they just work well. If sheaths are on the menu, you'll find an Osborne #4 in my hand. Their roundkives suck but I like their edgers.

Lots of folks have mentioned Barry King and we use a lot of their tooling stamps. In fact they are all that the wife will use. I'm not quite as picky but even still I bet ya 98-99% of the tooling stamps I use say Barry King on em.

Roundknife:

tsnvkPc.jpg


Roundknife, push skiver and a Paul Long Skiver:

SugIHat.jpg


6zPWnUh.jpg


Flower carving on a pancake sheath by the wife:

6GQmSAg.jpg


ZZYy6Ca.jpg


Some of the oak carving that I do:

moXQHl5.jpg


YGccVP6.jpg


We have two sewing machines a Cobra 18 for light work like these Horseshoe Coasters she made for the studio that produces Yellowstone:

ma4ITEW.jpg


4dXainK.jpg


And a heavier machine, a Cobra 4 for sheaths, holsters, tack etc. Working on the Cobra 4:

qnL0djs.jpg


WvUrdWX.jpg


vMdzEk2.jpg


g3X2VCU.jpg


Anyhoo kinda our take on the deal. Hope this helps.
First of all beautiful work and thanks for your input!
I've been using 8$ pricking irons to make stitching holes in as thick leather as 4.5mm for over 7 years now and they worked damn good until I broke the 1 , 2 prong and bent the 4 prong this year , bought another same set from the top seller on amazon and looks like the damn thing isn't even hardened....
I am considering japanese pricking irons tandy pro has as other options either are too expensive or shipping is too expensive.
I was thinking about CS osborne head knife , what else should I look for then ? and in the end of the day is it really worth it compared to snap off utility knives that I've been using for years?
Wranglers knives look amazing but costs my whole budget
 
Thanks, Dave, beautiful leather work.
Thanks Tom! Ya bet!

First of all beautiful work and thanks for your input!
I've been using 8$ pricking irons to make stitching holes in as thick leather as 4.5mm for over 7 years now and they worked damn good until I broke the 1 , 2 prong and bent the 4 prong this year , bought another same set from the top seller on amazon and looks like the damn thing isn't even hardened....
I am considering japanese pricking irons tandy pro has as other options either are too expensive or shipping is too expensive.
I was thinking about CS osborne head knife , what else should I look for then ? and in the end of the day is it really worth it compared to snap off utility knives that I've been using for years?
Wranglers knives look amazing but costs my whole budget
Thanks, ya bet.

The advantages of a roundknife are multi fold. First it works with a push cut. Ya can see much better and therefore make much more accurate cuts. It will cut way more perpendicular than a snap blade, less cleanup, the snap blades can flex while cutting and cut at an angle. Way easier to cut accurate curves both large sweeping curves and tiny curves too. Can be used for skiving as well. Ya can also make a roll cut on certain items as well as a crunch cut. Dang versatile. It will still cut even heavier leather in one pass. When I make Tapaderos I use 14/16 oz leather. Roundknife is the way to go. Again just more accurate cutting and less chance for error if you are only making one pass. Once ya learn to use one it's a game changer. I have said this before but it's really true. It is the one tool in my shop that is never put away. I have at least two and sometimes three roundkinves out at any given time. I have a big work bench and always want one in reach. Very easy to maintain by stropping or buffing and are comfortable in the hand. I often times work in batches:

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So building sheaths for this crew your hand would fall off trying to cut them all out with a utility knife. I can use a roundkinfe comfortably for hours:

'The horizontal, slotted and slot and loop sheaths from this group:

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The pancakes:

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A batch like this will use up a whole side of leather. There's a reason most pros use one and they've been around for centuries. They work. I'd save for the Leather Wrangler probably.
 
Also what do you think about https://vergez-blanchard.fr/ ?
Forgot to answer this. I have one of their push skivers, in fact what I based my design on. Theirs will take a wickedly sharp edge and hold it............. for about a second. If their round knives are the same ya’ll spend more time sharpening and no time cutting.
 
Thanks Tom! Ya bet!


Thanks, ya bet.

The advantages of a roundknife are multi fold. First it works with a push cut. Ya can see much better and therefore make much more accurate cuts. It will cut way more perpendicular than a snap blade, less cleanup, the snap blades can flex while cutting and cut at an angle. Way easier to cut accurate curves both large sweeping curves and tiny curves too. Can be used for skiving as well. Ya can also make a roll cut on certain items as well as a crunch cut. Dang versatile. It will still cut even heavier leather in one pass. When I make Tapaderos I use 14/16 oz leather. Roundknife is the way to go. Again just more accurate cutting and less chance for error if you are only making one pass. Once ya learn to use one it's a game changer. I have said this before but it's really true. It is the one tool in my shop that is never put away. I have at least two and sometimes three roundkinves out at any given time. I have a big work bench and always want one in reach. Very easy to maintain by stropping or buffing and are comfortable in the hand. I often times work in batches:

2cG8d8S.jpg


So building sheaths for this crew your hand would fall off trying to cut them all out with a utility knife. I can use a roundkinfe comfortably for hours:

'The horizontal, slotted and slot and loop sheaths from this group:

jDNoUuJ.jpg


The pancakes:

uhrK1wu.jpg


A batch like this will use up a whole side of leather. There's a reason most pros use one and they've been around for centuries. They work. I'd save for the Leather Wrangler probably.
Thank you so much for so much useful info , in matter of fact I have every single problem that you mentioned over the years , I have a maximum budget of 100$ for head knife , I am thinking weaver then? they say its 1075 and hand forged , seems to have nice reviews.
Also have you heard about Ivan tools from taiwan? I have their edge bevelers and they seem to workgood but what do I know , I can only compare it to cheap amazon stuff only lol
They have this "damascus" for 120$ I have discount with them and it would be 75 for me , dont know about steel as it says quote "high carbon stainless steel"
 
I’ve seen Damascus roundknives but have never used one. Seems kind of counter productive, I want that edge polished and the topo of Damascus would catch I think. Have to work harder than ya should.

With that budget look around for used knives. Rose we’re good ones.
 
I’ve seen Damascus roundknives but have never used one. Seems kind of counter productive, I want that edge polished and the topo of Damascus would catch I think. Have to work harder than ya should.

With that budget look around for used knives. Rose we’re good ones.
How about this if I negotiated a bit?
Any other vintage brands you can recommend ? Doesn't look like much w. rose knives are available
 
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