Problme with my new M9 PHROBIS III Bayonet

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Hello,

I recently ordered an M9 PHROBIS III bayonet from a knife collector. The knife is completely new in box, even the plastic bag inside the box is still unopened. It came with an original bayonet box, 10 pages operator's manual, and the bayonet (marks on the blade: M9 PHROBIS III U.S.A. PAT.PEND.). There is also a serial number on the box for this bayonet.

I was so happy to get this product. But after I open the plastic bag, remove the knife from the sheath, I found there are problems on the blade.

First, few parts of the blade edge looks a light crude, when you put finger on, you may feel it. Especially when you clean the blade edge with a dry cloth, the cloth get a bit caught.

Second, I was so surprised when I close my eye to the blade, I found one small nick on the blade edge. The nick is extremely small, just like a needlepoint. But it is a nick on the edge.

I really don't know whether this is normally for this product, or this is some kind of substandard product. In addition, how can I repair it, should I send it back to Buck or do it by myself. I knew Buck offer 4-every warranty on their knives. But I didn't purchase the knife directly from Buck, so I am not very sure if I may have the Buck warranty.

Hope anyone from this forum can give any help.

Thanks
 
hare said:
... I knew Buck offer 4-every warranty on their knives. But I didn't purchase the knife directly from Buck, so I am not very sure if I may have the Buck warranty...

The short answer to your questions about Buck's warranty is that as long as the knife is a Buck, they will stand behind it. As a Buck collector I buy knives from many different sources both retail and private. Problems have been few but when they do occur, the factory has always stepped up and taken of whatever needed attention, regardless of where I acquired the knife. The person you probably want to contact is Joe Houser, Director of Consumer Relations and Moderator of this forum. If there is a way for Buck to help your situation, he will be the one to get it done.

Good Luck !!! ;)
 
Gypsy9590,

Thanks for your suggestion. It's a good idea to contact Joe Houser. But I don't have his contact information. Could you help.
 
Hi,
Is it a Buck made Phrobis?They where made by Phrobis,then Buck and some are marked Buck Phrobis,some marked Phrobis,then Lan Cay,and now Ontario as well as China made.I may have missed some here but you get the idea.
I hope this makes some sense to you.The M9's where produced by quite a few manufacturer's.It is possible that Buck didn't even make the one you have.
What you are describing to me sounds pretty normal on the edge.It may have gooten bumped into something.M9's where and are made as tools and not really for people to collect and get minty knives like you would a custom knife.
It sounds like an okay knife to me.If you want the edge to be free from drag you could just use a little wet/dry paper and smooth out slowly.Keep in mind these where made in high numbers for utility use.If you store in the sheath each time you pull out of sheath there will be a light mark.So store separate.
Pete
 
Hi, Petenh,

You are right. There are some M9 bayonets wasn't made by Buck, they are:
M9A1: made by Phrobis Int'l, in September, 1989
(blade marks: left side - M9 Phrobis Int'l U.S.A
right side - U.S.A  PAT. NO. 4,821,356)

M9 LANCAY: made by Lancay Inc, in 1992 - 1994
(blade marks:M9 LANCAY USA)

M9 LAN-CAY: made by Lan-cay Inc, in 1995
(blade marks: M9 LAN-CAY USA)

M9 Ontario: made by Ontario, in 2000

K1,K4,D80: made by Norinco (China)

The M9 bayonet I had is the first contract of M9 bayonet. It's one of the 315,600, and made in 1989. This bayonet is designed by Phrobis Ltd, and made by Buck. So, it's a OEM product of Phrobis Ltd & Buck. The blade mards is: M9 PHROBIS III U.S.A PAT PEND.

I'll try your suggestion, hope it works.
 
I would recomend leaving the edge how it is. That bayonet edge was left intentionally rough at the request of the Army. We usually remove the burr from the blade but the Army wanted this knife to cut through rope and they felt the rough edge did the best job for them. It was hard for us to do it that way as we felt the knife was unfinished.
Believe it or not, your knife sounds like it has the correct factory edge and it would, in my opinion, diminish its value to remove that burr.
I hope this helps,
 
Thanks Joe,

Now I understand why the blade edge looks like that. You are right, the rough edge even feels dangerous than smooth edge :) It is a perfect knife, I like it.
 
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