Project: Restoring Fire Damaged Kobun Tanto

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Background: In early 2006, I purchased a Cold Steel Kobun Tanto at a local dealer. He had the AUS8 (?) model and the black coated Carbon V steel model. I got the Carbon V model.

In December 2006 I had a minor on-duty wreck in my Ford Crown Victoria patrol car, and 20 minutes later, the Crown Vic was a "fully-involved" fire. (Perhaps you've heard of Crown Vics and their propensity to catch fire after minor collisions...) :grumpy:

I'm glad I got out, but I lost almost $4000 worth of personal gear: Smith M&P15 with EO Tech, 10+ magazines, Pro-Ears muffs, Nikon D50 camera and kit, Nikon Monarch binocs, etc., etc., etc. The Kobun, a Victorinox Swiss Champ (which was he FIRST gift even given to me by my wife :( ) and a few other items were in a "war-bag" that IRONICALLY I'd stuffed in the trunk earlier in the day, which was the area LEAST touched by the fire. They were still ruined, but not totally lost. I kept them in a smoke-smelling bag in my garage ever since. The rubber grip on the Kobun was melted at the back, and the finish was smoke damaged. The sheath melted into the nylon war bag.

(On a side note, NO INSURANCE ever paid me for anything! :mad: My PERSONAL insurance wouldn't pay because I used the items at work, and that was a specific clause in my policy that disqualified them. The COUNTY'S insurance wouldn't pay because they were owned by me and not the county. I appealed both decisions and lost. And Nikon's "no fault warranty" and "no questions asked" policy ISN'T/ They laughed at me, both at SHOT 2007 and later in email and paper correspondence. I HAD to get a D80 later, but other than that...I never buy Nikon anymore. :thumbdn:

I did approach as many companies as possible at the SHOT Show (2007) with copies of all the reports and letters from insurance companies, and Smith and Wesson replaced the rifle, the owner of Ergo grips gave me a replacement Ergo grip, and Pelican replaced the case my camera kit was in, and GAVE me a light, but that was it. So these companies are special to me STILL. This is also why I don't carry as much personal gear in my patrol car, and the citizens are the losers there in many cases-photograph your own crime scene or injuries from an assault :rolleyes: the Sheriff's Office provides one camera per shift which MAY OR MAY NOT be available for the Lieutenant to bring out, which may be up to 2 hours... they never offered to pay for my D50 and in fact told me I shouldn't have been carrying so much personal stuff... :mad: LESSON LEARNED!)

ANYWAY...

Here of late I've had a PASSION for cord-wrapped Oriental-influenced knives of the Tanto order. I have a CRKT First Strike, and am trying to buy back a Coombs neck knife I sold to a buddy.

Today while cleaning the garage I ran across the Kobun.

*IDEA*

Why not refurbish this knife (which I liked but is no longer made) and go back with a handrubbed finish and I will try my hand at a rayskin covering and cord wrap.

This knife would have SUCH character, coming back from near death and being in the fire. It would be a challenge, and would give me another "new" knife of this persuasion (sp?)

I trimmed the grip off today and now the blade soaks in mineral spirits, to hopefully remove the blade coating.

*HELP NEEDED*

1. I'm assuming there MIGHT be a heat issue with the heat from the car fire. Can I have this checked, or should I just assume there is not, or assume there is and have it RE-heat treated?

CAN it be "re" heattreated? (Brian Goode...you listening? I'll be calling... :D )


2. Any ideas or suggestions on cord wrapping? I want the traditional wide ribbon-type cord and not paracord. Epoxy coating?

3. EDC sheath makers?

4. Any other comments suggestions?
 
Man that sucks, I'm sorry you lost so much nice gear. If both your insurance and the county refuse to cover your personal items at work then perhaps some budget gear would be better for taking to work. Samsung makes a 10.2MP digital that can be found online for about $90. its not a DSLR but its a high quality image and much cheaper to replace if lost. As for your rifle, well that's not the kind of thing you would want to compromise on I think.
 
It doesn't seem fair to hold it against the manufacturers of your equipment for not replacing your gear that got burned in a fire, man. Hold it against the insurance companies for sure, but not the people who made the stuff. It's not their responsibility to replace stuff that got burned. Nothing is warrantied against that. The places that did replace the stuff that got burned went above and beyond what was necessary and their responsibility, IMO. I have had similar things happen to my stuff...that's just the way it goes sometimes.

As for the knife, I'd get it checked for hardness, you could probably do a file test and that would be adequate for edc use. Mineral spirits will most likely not even put a dent (smear?) in a DLC coating...you'll need to sand or hone it off.
 
Mineral Spirits MAY NOT weaken it, but I don't think it's DLC-it appears to be a "baked on" coating, which due to the fact it didn't "bake" off in the fire made me *hopeful* the heat didn't get too bad... <fingers crossed>

I've tried to Google and search on Cold Steel's website, but only find the listings for the bead blasted AUS blades...

The coating is like the one on the Recon Tanto-baked on epoxy, NOT the Teflon coating on the Recon Scout (which I also have.)
 
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