Pros and Cons of the sharpened clip?

[Zombie Zeke]

I was wondering about batoning with the sharpened clip version of the RC6, is it impacted greatly by the sharpening? Can move your impact point closer to the handle on the spine or does that prove damaging to the knife?

-zeke

 

[choltzapple]

I can't speak for the RAT, but I sharpened the spine on my Kabar. It still batons fine but it chews up the stick you're using.

 

[Dizwolf]

I usually start batoning close to the handle, then finish by hitting the tip.

I imagine the clip points will baton fine, but I personally wouldn't pick one for the woods.

 

[Double Action]

I've batoned with a sharpened clip point knife before. My experience was that it works fine, but definitely chews up the baton. Also, some of the impact force is bled off by the clip cutting into the baton. Seems like it takes longer and uses more effort. Depending on the diameter of the material you are splitting, you might be able to stay closer to the handle, but on thicker stuff, you will def be banging on the sharp end.

 

[Parker]

Pro - if you're using it for self-defense applications you now have two sharp edges and for some folks that's a plus.

Con - if you see the knife as a tool with edged-weapon potential, the sharp clip will get in the way if you're one of those folks who uses the spine as another handle.

In the city we do not baton a lot, at least not on the back of our knife You wanna baton on a recalcitrant idiot, just make sure the traffic camera is pointed the other way.

But I do use an RC3 or an Izula (loving that little pink bastard more daily) fairly constantly and the back of the blade being sharp would be a hindrance for me in that capacity.

I'd like to give one a shot anyway, just for a change, but in IL or in many places I tend to spend time, a sharp false edge or double edge makes the knife a dagger in legal terms, and I just do not need the hassle.

I may well snag one with the false edge and then dull it off, which would avoid the dagger issue, but still give me the improved profile for "milinja" taskings.

Milinja is a term encompassing mall ninja which I made up. Feel free to use it.

 

[RatDrall]

The only advantage of the sharpened clip is to perform cuts with the rear of the blade when fighting someone.

The cons are numerous, including legal and safety issues...

 

[cybrok]

No experience with a RAT, but I tried a Ranger TFI.

I used it for bushcraft oriented tasks. I didn't really like the swedge, even if it was not sharpened. As mentionned, it just chews the hitting stick when batoning. I prefer a strong tip for bushcraft tasks. I don't see the point of a swedge for a bush knife.

But if you want a pig sticker, that's another thing. It will penetrate living things better for sure.


Here's the TFI I handled in a passaround:

You can see I wasn't the first on the list

My conclusion "Definitely more a fighter than a bushcrafter"

 

[Zombie Zeke]

Pro - if you're using it for self-defense applications you now have two sharp edges and for some folks that's a plus.

Con - if you see the knife as a tool with edged-weapon potential, the sharp clip will get in the way if you're one of those folks who uses the spine as another handle.

In the city we do not baton a lot, at least not on the back of our knife You wanna baton on a recalcitrant idiot, just make sure the traffic camera is pointed the other way.

But I do use an RC3 or an Izula (loving that little pink bastard more daily) fairly constantly and the back of the blade being sharp would be a hindrance for me in that capacity.

I'd like to give one a shot anyway, just for a change, but in IL or in many places I tend to spend time, a sharp false edge or double edge makes the knife a dagger in legal terms, and I just do not need the hassle.

I may well snag one with the false edge and then dull it off, which would avoid the dagger issue, but still give me the improved profile for "milinja" taskings.

Milinja is a term encompassing mall ninja which I made up. Feel free to use it.

Thats pretty awesome, your stuck in parts of the land of the free that aren't s free either too huh...

good infor with a sense of humor, thanks!

 

[Zombie Zeke]

No experience with a RAT, but I tried a Ranger TFI.

I used it for bushcraft oriented tasks. I didn't really like the swedge, even if it was not sharpened. As mentionned, it just chews the hitting stick when batoning. I prefer a strong tip for bushcraft tasks. I don't see the point of a swedge for a bush knife.

But if you want a pig sticker, that's another thing. It will penetrate living things better for sure.


Here's the TFI I handled in a passaround:

You can see I wasn't the first on the list

My conclusion "Definitely more a fighter than a bushcrafter"

I am tending to agree with you on this, good info and thank you!

 

[Parker]

Thats pretty awesome, your stuck in parts of the land of the free that aren't s free either too huh...

good infor with a sense of humor, thanks!

No worries, Chef. I'm always happy to share what I can.

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[LUW]

I'm kind of puzzled about why ESEE decided to offer the ESEE-6 with a sharp clip point. I thought the 6 was a camp/bushcraft knife, not a fighter, and to the best of my knowledge a double edge is only useful in a defense knife .

 

[jimdandy197647]

After getiing mine monday I can tell you the sharpened clip is not good at cleaning your fingernails, just in case someone was wondering. I think that is a Con?

 

[DWK2]

I'm kind of puzzled about why ESEE decided to offer the ESEE-6 with a sharp clip point. I thought the 6 was a camp/bushcraft knife, not a fighter, and to the best of my knowledge a double edge is only useful in a defense knife .

Good point. Some styles (such as Filipino Martial Arts) even favor a single edge for fighting knives as well as practical bush knives.

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