PSA to All New Jersey HOGs...Ivory Sales Ban Signed Into Law-Effective in 6 Months...

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Not posting this to spark political discussion here but to give a heads-up to all New Jersey HOGs owning any Busse knives with Mammoth or other ivory, or any ivory at all...looks like it's time to move them to out of state relatives.

Knife Rights was shocked and saddened that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie bought into the irrational emotional pleas and outright lies of the radical ivory banners and signed into law the nation's most draconian ivory ban, ignoring New Jersey's constitutionally protected personal property rights. This ban will cost New Jersey citizens millions of dollars, seriously hamper many from making a living, adversely affect everyone from gun and knife collectors to musicians and antique collectors and will not save a single elephant in Africa. Many veterans and elderly who have invested in perfectly legal items containing ivory that have been in this country for decades will lose their investments. Some will sell at fire sale prices during the six-month grace period, but most will never even hear about the ban until down the road when they try to sell to cover medical expenses or some other emergency.

The New Jersey law bans "import, sale, purchase, barter, or possession with intent to sell" ivory from any species, including fossil ivory from mastodons and mammoths extinct for 10,000 years, and has no exceptions whatsoever. It will go into effect in six months, during which time anyone who owns antiques, musical instruments, guns, knives, canes, chess sets, art or anything else that contains even the smallest amount of ivory can liquidate it. And, we expect that "liquidate" will be the operative word, for those few who actually are paying attention. Once the law goes into effect, no one can buy, sell or trade ivory in New Jersey or "possess with the intent to sell," an extremely vague phrase subject to abuse by authorities. Penalties include a fine of $1000 or double the value of the ivory for a first offense, and $5000 or double the value of the ivory for subsequent offenses. Which begs the question, if it's illegal to sell, does it actually have any value?

Governor Christie, who has been touted as a potential Republican presidential candidate, should have stuck with those who really have the best interests of the elephants at heart and vetoed this absurd draconian ban and instead supported proven effective science and enforcement based approaches to eliminating poaching in Africa. In signing this bill, he's demonstrated that he's more interested in securing support from the radical extremists on the other side of the aisle than in preserving his constituents' property rights.

Read Knife Rights' original letter to Governor Christie here: www.KnifeRights.org/Gov_Christie_NJ_Ivory_Ban_06192014_Final.pdf

If anyone is inclined to let the Governor know how they feel about this travesty, his contacts are below.

Email Governor Christie at: Constituent.Relations@gov.state.nj.us
Call the Governor at: 609-292-6000

Knife Rights continues to fight the Federal Ivory Ban. Read more about that fight here: http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=256

Mr. Ritter edited his post that I quoted after I quoted it, so I updated this here.
 
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If you have owned it prior, you can keep it. You don't have to sell your existing ivory. This is the key phase "possess with intent to sell", that needs to be remembered in everything. You *can possess it, if you already had it.

My next things, is which dumb ass put Mammoth on the list? Ya... lets protect the 10,000 + year old dead animal............. but... these are the people the majority elected.
 
Sorry to hear this. Good thing to remember if we decide to head out your way for another show.
 
Hey screw you guys and your insensitivity to the plight of the woolly Mammoth. We all have a moral obligation to protect these majestic creatures from slaughter and exploitation and ...

huh?
say what?
really? all gone? not even one left?
how long?... that long huh, thousands of years ago you say...
Well hell was there a memo? Why didn't someone tell me about this before?
:barf:
 
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At least it makes me feel a little better knowing that some of your politicians are as ridiculous as ours.

No, actually it doesn't at all :(
 
thank god i dont live in jersey

Dont dance in triumph yet, this kind of stupidity spreads like wildfire. :(

Once passed in one place, its destined to spread out. Its stopping that spread that is important.
 
If you have owned it prior, you can keep it. You don't have to sell your existing ivory. This is the key phase "possess with intent to sell", that needs to be remembered in everything. You *can possess it, if you already had it.

My next things, is which dumb ass put Mammoth on the list? Ya... lets protect the 10,000 + year old dead animal............. but... these are the people the majority elected.

Thank you for the correction. :thumbup: Critter edited his post that I quoted to reflect this also, so I updated his now edited quoted post in my OP. :)
 
support Doug Ritter and Knife Rights, they do a bunch of good.
 
Hey screw you guys and your insensitivity to the plight of the woolly Mammoth. We all have a moral obligation to protect these majestic creatures from slaughter and exploitation and ...

huh?
say what?
really? all gone? not even one left?
how long?... that long huh, thousands of years ago you say...
Well hell was there a memo? Why didn't someone tell me about this before?
:barf:

Yes we do have a responsibility to protect the animals, but this law isn't going to do anything to help any animal living or dead. All this does is trample on your rights as a citizen and give government more control over what you do, and what you own. Since when have they done a good job managing anything? It is your responsibility to do your homework and if you do that you will see that the poached ivory isn't coming to the US. It's going to Asia. The laws that are in place are more than enough to prevent US citizens from engaging in any activity using illegal ivory. All tegu have to do is enforce them. But it's easier to make it all illegal. Prohibition didn't work Look what happened then. That is what laws like this will end up doing. Making a black market. Won't help the elephants. In fact will hurt them.
 
Yes we do have a responsibility to protect the animals, but this law isn't going to do anything to help any animal living or dead. All this does is trample on your rights as a citizen and give government more control over what you do, and what you own. Since when have they done a good job managing anything? It is your responsibility to do your homework and if you do that you will see that the poached ivory isn't coming to the US. It's going to Asia. The laws that are in place are more than enough to prevent US citizens from engaging in any activity using illegal ivory. All tegu have to do is enforce them. But it's easier to make it all illegal. Prohibition didn't work Look what happened then. That is what laws like this will end up doing. Making a black market. Won't help the elephants. In fact will hurt them.

Jeez, have another read of my post you quoted. It was dripping with sarcasm and even punctuated with a Barf.
 
Good stuff NJ, it's a good start to help save the elephants, hopefully the rest of the states follow suit!:)
 
What the!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

....that's it! Your politicians are getting as crazy as ours. Doesn't a state governor have much else to worry about?
 
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