PSK Survival Food !

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This is a recipe for Energy bars from a bodybuilding recipe book I have but I figure it would make a great ' all in one ' for a PSK.
Kinda like a modern Pemican !!!

1 Cup Peanut butter
1 Cup Honey
1 Cup Protein powder
3 Cups Raw wheat germ

Mix it all together and press into a glass oblong pan or a Tupperware dish with a lid, refrigerate and enjoy.

I think you could put it into an empty peanut butter jar and toss it in ya PSK bag. I'd think it would last for quite a while.
 
What's the nutritional break down on it? I'm always looking for stuff like that to munch on. I exercise a lot, weights and cardio, but the hardest thing for me is watching what I eat. I'm making progress with building muscle and losing fat, but if I could do better, I'd be one ripped dude right now.

Of course, I say that right after eating three pieces of Digiornio Three Meat pizza. They were small slices!!
 
cramsey3006 said:
What's the nutritional break down on it? I'm always looking for stuff like that to munch on. I exercise a lot, weights and cardio, but the hardest thing for me is watching what I eat. I'm making progress with building muscle and losing fat, but if I could do better, I'd be one ripped dude right now.

Of course, I say that right after eating three pieces of Digiornio Three Meat pizza. They were small slices!!
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According to the book :

For 15 squares

Calories: 307
Protein: 15
Carbs: 42
Fat: 78

This is obviously gonna vary a little depending on what brand of Peanut butter and protein powder you use !
 
Good mix!

I usualy use a mix of Peanut butter, milk powder, Honey, Raisins, sometimes add protein powder. Never thought of adding Wheat germ. I'll have to try it out.
 
Foods rich in protein and fat use a lot of fluids for digestion and fiber makes you want to go to the bathroom. Not a good combination for on-the-go emergency rations. Something made with white flower, sugar or honey, whey protein and maybe some peanut butter would absorb almost completely and not dehydrate you. It also probably won't be overly tasty, so you'll only eat when you really need to.
 
I used to use a variation on the moose goo recipe that I found on an ultralighter website. Almost the same proportions but use Masa Harina i/o wheat germ and protien powder. It amounts to almost the same thing. I also add in a good dash of cayenne to brighten my day.

Edit: you can also bake it for a while at 350 until the shine disappears from the surface of the bars then throw it in the dehydrator on high temp in order to make it easier to chew in cold weather. I think it's a bit lighter that way as well.
 
pitdog said:
This is a recipe for Energy bars from a bodybuilding recipe book I have but I figure it would make a great ' all in one ' for a PSK.
Kinda like a modern Pemican !!!

1 Cup Peanut butter
1 Cup Honey
1 Cup Protein powder
3 Cups Raw wheat germ

Mix it all together and press into a glass oblong pan or a Tupperware dish with a lid, refrigerate and enjoy.

I think you could put it into an empty peanut butter jar and toss it in ya PSK bag. I'd think it would last for quite a while.
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How does it taste? How well does it keep?
 
My recipie came from the "plumpynut" ration that is used by UNESCO and other aid groups to put weight on emaciated famine victims. If one eats much of it it'll fatten ya right up.
 
Pitdog,

This recipe reminds me of a recipe from the book Appalachian Trail Hiker. It's been about 20 years since I read it, so I might be misremembering a bit, but as I recall, the author said that while he hiked the A.T., he liked to eat a mixture of peanut butter, dehydrated milk powder, honey, and bacon fat.


In regard to keeping your mixture in your PSK as survival food, I have mixed feelings. As you may recall, I went for about a couple months without eating, a couple Summers back. I don't recommend anybody do that; nonetheless, it did change my view about the need for food for a short-term emergency survival situation. Since then, I haven't really felt it's that important to carry any rations in my PSK.

Suppose you carry 500 calories worth of this stuff in your PSK, which we'll assume is at least a few ounces of weight, with commensurate volume. You have what? – less than a quarter of a day's worth of food for a sedentary day for a small person? Something like that. Meanwhile, that's a considerable amount of space and weight, within the confines of PSK. Most people seem to like an Altoids tin sized PSK; 500 calories worth of this stuff wouldn't even fit in an Altoids PSK. I like a larger PSK than most (about 32 ounces, currently, which comfortably fits in my pocket, but without much extra room). Even in an unusually large PSK like mine, a few ounces of this stuff would have to come at an opportunity cost of leaving behind something potentially much more valuable to survival than ~1/4 day food supply – such as leaving behind my bivy sack, or knife, or fire kit, or first aid supplies.

I do think that "survival food" has some value. Some potential benefits I can imagine:

1) It's comforting, and might improve your morale.

2) Digestion will help you a little bit with staying warm for a few hours.

3) It can help break a cycle of panic, and help you stop, think, observe, and plan.

4) it will forestall hunger for a couple hours, and increase your survival reserves by a small fraction of 1%.

5) Under some circumstances, it can briefly forestall diabetic issues.

6) Under some circumstances, it can briefly forestall electrolyte imbalance issues.

I DO see those as having value, but within context of the opportunity cost of items within my PSK, I don't see the value as high enough for me to carry survival food, any longer.
 
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Evolute said:
Pitdog,

This recipe reminds me of a recipe from the book Appalachian Trail Hiker. It's been about 20 years since I read it, so I might be misremembering a bit, but as I recall, the author said that while he hiked the A.T., he liked to eat a mixture of peanut butter, dehydrated milk powder, honey, and bacon fat.


In regard to keeping your mixture in your PSK as survival food, I have mixed feelings. As you may recall, I went for about a couple months without eating, a couple Summers back. I don't recommend anybody do that; nonetheless, it did change my view about the need for food for a short-term emergency survival situation. Since then, I haven't really felt it's that important to carry any rations in my PSK.

Suppose you carry 500 calories worth of this stuff in your PSK, which we'll assume is at least a few ounces of weight, with commensurate volume. You have what? – less than a quarter of a day's worth of food for a sedentary day for a small person? Something like that. Meanwhile, that's a considerable amount of space and weight, within the confines of PSK. Most people seem to like an Altoids tin sized PSK; 500 calories worth of this stuff wouldn't even fit in an Altoids PSK. I like a larger PSK than most (about 32 ounces, currently, which comfortably fits in my pocket, but without much extra room). Even in an unusually large PSK like mine, a few ounces of this stuff would have to come at an opportunity cost of leaving behind something potentially much more valuable to survival than ~1/4 day food supply – such as leaving behind my bivy sack, or knife, or fire kit, or first aid supplies.

I do think that "survival food" has some value. Some potential benefits I can imagine:

1) It's comforting, and might improve your morale.

2) Digestion will help you a little bit with staying warm for a few hours.

3) It can help break a cycle of panic, and help you stop, think, observe, and plan.

4) it will forestall hunger for a couple hours, and increase your survival reserves by a small fraction of 1%.

5) Under some circumstances, it can briefly forestall diabetic issues.

6) Under some circumstances, it can briefly forestall electrolyte imbalance issues.

I DO see those as having value, but within context of the opportunity cost of items within my PSK, I don't see the value as high enough for me to carry survival food, any longer.
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alright +20... true bad ass lol. i can barley go a day and a half without eating before i break (and i have tried)
 
pitdog,

I've been doing a variant of this for a while, and it's awesome:

Heat up Honey and Peanut butter over low heat on the stove so it becomes less viscous. Mix in your grain of choice: start with 2x more than you had peanut butter + honey. Oatmeal, granola or something like that.

Put in a large, shallow container and mix in everything else:

-Dried Cranberries
-Banana Chips (makes it crunchy)
-Chocolate Chips
-Raisins
-Nuts
-Protein Powder

Whatever you like, basically. Then keep adding more of your oats or granola until it ceases to be sticky. It will have the consistency of a Clif Bar (that's basically what it is) at this point. Refrigerate to let it set a bit. They hold their shape well and pack an incredible amount of energy. A big bite takes as long to chew through as a whole peanut butter sandwich if you've made it crazy enough! Sorry if someone already posted this, not enough time to read the whole thread, but wanted to share.
 
For simplicity's sake, ease of storage, and other factors, I am sticking with Cliff Bars.
 
Mannlicher said:
For simplicity's sake, ease of storage, and other factors, I am sticking with Cliff Bars.
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Plus they really last a while too. I had a full unopened box of them on a shelf that were almost 18 months past the date stamped on them. Some how that box didn't get rotated, but every bar was fine and tasted like I just picked them up yesterday. Not that I'm suggesting doing this, but it is nice to know that they last a while.
 
Expiration dates are extremely conservative when it comes to food. The producers have no control over how they will be stored. As a result, they er on the far side of caution. Also, with the majority of food, you will only experience a decrease in nutritional value with age, rather than it spoiling. Years ago I watched a documentary on the testing done by drug companies in order to determine shelf life, The test were in the extreme i.e. medication left sitting on a dash of a car subjected to months of 140 f direct sunlight. Same idea with food.
 
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