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waynorth

waynorth

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Anyone who subscribes to Knife World magazine has probably seen this advertisement.
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Let me say, I am NOT shilling for Queen, and I hope it is clear that this post is placed in hopes of discussing traditional knives, and the future of their existence in terms of modern production.

The ad has fueled my imagination! I'd love to see knives made now that incorporate the goodness that draws me to the actual old timers. Steel that patinas and takes a great edge.
Nicely jigged bone, or well fitted stag that starts out beautiful, and mellows with age.
Patterns that amaze the eye, (Doglegs, Eurekas, Swaybacks etc.). Cut swedges that look purposeful, and give dimension to the blades!
Is it too much to ask??
 
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waynorth said:
Is it too much to ask??
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Not at all. I'm looking forward to these reproductions also, thanks for the heads up Charlie.

Do we know what steel will be used? I hope it's some sort of carbon steel, and not the 420HC that Queen uses on most of its S&M knives. The 1095 blade on my goldenroot bone harness jack that you commissioned a few years back has taken on a nice patina now, and this knife is my favorite production slipjoint by far.

- Christian
 
charlie i'm with you on the old time swedged blades & jigged bone. nothing excites me more than the great old timeys.
dennis
 
Charlie,the ad had me thinking,along those lines,as well.
I hope they can live up to what they are implying.
-Vince
 
:thumbup: here, too. I hope they use 1095 or ATS-34 stainless, which they already do use on their File & Wire line of Schatt's.
Ebony, brown bone and stag are the only covers this line really needs.
 
I saw the ads and adopted a "wait and see" attitude. I figure if I don't expect too much I won't be disappointed (but might be pleasantly surprised!).
 
Charlie thanks for posting these.

If they make these patterns they are going to be awesome. The Teardrop Jack is already on my radar but I would be interested in a complete set:)

Please keep us updated on this offering.......

Kind regards
Steven
 
They won't give me any details! I've tried!

BTW, the punches pictured on the ad page appear to be made to the patent/drawings attributed to Mr. Schatt himself!
 
Blues said:
I saw the ads and adopted a "wait and see" attitude. I figure if I don't expect too much I won't be disappointed (but might be pleasantly surprised!).
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uh huh. same here. :D
 
Well, if it ain't too late. I think I will adopt a "squeaky wheel" attitude and try and push for excellence!
I mean - who do they listen to??:confused:
They can't be immune to those rusty knife makers across town who are doing pretty well with 1095 and traditional patterns!! And that's despite a spotty economy.
(Great Eastern, for those who are newer here!)
 
I really hope the knives shown in the ad are not representative of the knives they end up producing. Most of the patterns shown don't do much for me- at all. I've seen images of old S&Ms that are much, much more appealing than most of the knives in that image. My main objection is- why so many punch blades?

I have a S&M teardrop jack that looks just like the third knife from the right, but in ebony (with the long pull and swedge from the 4th knife from the right). It's pretty cool. The punch blade is way cool, but I have no use for it.
 
waynorth said:
Well, if it ain't too late. I think I will adopt a "squeaky wheel" attitude and try and push for excellence!
I mean - who do they listen to??:confused:
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Probably the bean counters...;)

Seriously though, I appreciate your taking on the responsibility to do just that, Charlie. At the same time, I sort of feel that one shouldn't have to tell a company with the legacy of that "mark" what goes into making a great knife.

I'll vote with my wallet. That'll tell them if they got it right imho.
(At least according to my own set of standards.)
 
Interesting it says a selection of knives taken from random pages, wonder who they will ask to do the 'random' selecting:D

This could be a very good project indeed.
 
Let's hope for the best. If they're done well and priced accordingly, S&M and their customers will be all grins.
 
Blues said:
Probably the bean counters...;)

Seriously though, I appreciate your taking on the responsibility to do just that, Charlie. At the same time, I sort of feel that one shouldn't have to tell a company with the legacy of that "mark" what goes into making a great knife.

I'll vote with my wallet. That'll tell them if they got it right imho.
(At least according to my own set of standards.)
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Elliot, Very well said!! I agree, I'll let my wallet do the talking!! If they don't listen to the bottom line or GP, there not going to listen to anything!!
The numbers do not lie!! If it's a great knife they will know rather quick!!
I know all of Us will ... Charlie, Thanks for starting a great Thread!!


Jason
 
I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with too. As always tho, The Proof is in the Pudding. It takes a lot for me to open my wallet for a new production knife these days.
Greg
 
moonwilson said:
My main objection is- why so many punch blades?
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Funny you should say that. My first thought when checking out the patterns shown in the ad was "Yes! About time we had more punch blades showing up in classic repros." YMMV (and apparently, it does), but I find punch blades extremely handy for reaming, scraping, scribing and yes...punching holes. I think they're one of the nicer thoroughly 'traditional' features to have in an old-timey pocketknife.
 
I'm always interested in punches! If they reproduce the old Schatt patent, you'll see something like this.

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Not common, but they pop up once in a while.
 
I'm excited, can't help it! long pull whittler is like candy for me. :D


james
 
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