Put the Wood To Council Hudson Bay V

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HiYole! That's a new word I learned today it's Southernese. I just got in from an overnight fishing campout and I heard that term spoken a few times while there.
SO I packed up and decided to take a trip to a localish park that has good fishing, kayaking, and camping. One of the toughest decisions was which axe do I take. I didn't want to go to big because I was just overnighting it and only needed something for kindling. So I picked up the Gransfors, the Council tool HB and threw them in the pack.
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At check in the big guy taking my money says all out of wood. Son of a b*tch I exclaimed. So I left and set up camp, then decided to drive back into town to pick up some grocery store bundled firewood. Gotta have wood when camping right. Checked two stores and they were out too, so I started looking for side of the road bar ditch wood. Nothing then I saw the yard waste collection center and pulled in and scavenged a heap for the night. This is landscaper waste.
Mixed hardwoods oak,and I think some cedar or bottlebrush.

Here it is at camp. Thats my dog zoom.

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The Council was sharpened before the task and I sharpened it paper cutting sharp. More on that later. I think this is a piece of cedar.
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This looked like a butterfly so I snapped a shot. Plus I was about an hour in and was working on technique and really getting a feel for this ax. All chopping was done from a kneeling position which was actually comfortable and no strain on the back. During this point in chopping two red heads
woodpeckers that is stopped by to see what all the fuss was about. No picture of them but they were curious and I didn't see them the rest of the trip.
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Here it is all chopped up, the pile on the left was easy to chop, the right was harder to chop.
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After about two hours solid chopping the blade was still sharp enough to shave this bark a little. I actually used the waxed jute twine wrapped around the handle to start the fire.
When I got home I cut the same paper with the axe and although not as quick or cleanly cut as when fresh it still has a decent edge on it and cut thru the paper.

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Overall I am happy with the ax and the head did not budge in the slightest kept a good edge and the handle was comfortable no blisters. The handle size is great for tripping like this.
I also learned the limits with this ax, they are what is shown in the photos for scale. You could chop bigger wood but only if you had to. This 2lb head packs a good wallop on the wood. I did use the GB a little but it was like a woodpecker compared to the heavier tool. I didn't need to split anything, but I already know this is an excellent splitter. I think I'm good on axes for awhile so I will use the ones I have for now. Next time I will take that 3lber along just in case.

EDIT: During the time I was chopping the blade not once got stuck into the wood. That was great not having to tug the blade out to rewind and swing. On my Swedish axes I know that would have happened. It kept a good rhythm and threw chips crazy good.:thumbup:
I am a lanyard fan and put a leather one on this axe. It worked great and was not in the way at all, at one point it was good for some more grip. I had an idea I am going to work on about that.
 
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excellent photos:cool: and very interesting torial:thumbup:

thanks for posting:D

buzz
 
nice work! looks like you had a good time...
those CT velvets are nice looking axes... if i would quite buying some many damn axe heads, maybe i could afford one :D
 
What is your procedure for attaching the waxed jute twine to the handle and how does it withstand the tendency to shred when being scraped by splitting?
 
nice work! looks like you had a good time...
those CT velvets are nice looking axes... if i would quite buying some many damn axe heads, maybe i could afford one :D
Thanks for the reply and it was a good time and being a weekday all the weekend warriors were home. I think if they priced the HBV@ $99bucks it would sell like hotcakes. I'm going to try and get my moneys worth out of it. It is expensive. I have given myself a temporary ban on buying anything ax for 6 months, except deoderant:) hope I can make it.

Great photos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks,your welcome

What is your procedure for attaching the waxed jute twine to the handle and how does it withstand the tendency to shred when being scraped by splitting?

Hey thunder all I do is when starting the wrap, from the top. I place about an inch of the standing end of twine vertically on the haft. Then wrap over it to the bottom and tuck the end under a couple wraps upward. Hope that makes sense. Now the fun part. Take an ordinary candle any old candle will do. Light it and drip the wax on the jute until it is covered to your liking.

The wrap held up pretty good during the chopping you could see in the photo where it started to unravel but not a problem. I've only done mild splitting with it since I wrapped it and think it would be ok for average bush use. The long blade shape sort of protects it from getting hit in a sense.
 
cattledog,

Have you had any issues with the pointy beard of this axe? I've all too easily poked myself with that sharp tip a couple times and drew blood. It is sharp!

I found out the hard way that tip is also prone to damage. Mine got bent at camp after I let some morons handle it for a few whacks. I'm not sure how it got bent but I suspect it hit a rock when they were chopping low on it. I straightened it out pretty well with needle-nose pliers.

Overall, it's a great little axe in a do-it-all-well size and pattern.
 
Great job cattledog. I really like that velvicut. What do you think about the council tool hudson bay 1.75lb axe? its basically the same size but it isnt a velvicut. half the price too. Do you think it would be pretty good? also, ive never used a hudson bay style head. is there a difference in the way it cuts and such? like is it better for splitting, chopping, etc.? Thanks!
 
A Hudson Bay is good for bushcraft and detail work because the shape of the head allows you to choke up closer on it. In exchange you get a short eye that will be slightly less durable at heavy chopping. But it's still fine for light and medium chopping and a smaller amount of heavy chopping.
 
Thats great. Im trying to find a good axe for bushcraft... around this axes size. I really really liked my wetterlings while it lasted... lol, dang, i need to get on that thing! I think the problem with it is that it was made a very long time ago.. so the wood had enough time to warp as it pleased in the warm, humid air of the smokies. oh well. ill give it one more shot. maybe i can find a good boys axe handle somewhere.
 
Very cool. Sounds like you got firewood the fun way, nice pics man
Yup it was I like to chop
cattledog,

Have you had any issues with the pointy beard of this axe? I've all too easily poked myself with that sharp tip a couple times and drew blood. It is sharp!

I found out the hard way that tip is also prone to damage. Mine got bent at camp after I let some morons handle it for a few whacks. I'm not sure how it got bent but I suspect it hit a rock when they were chopping low on it. I straightened it out pretty well with needle-nose pliers.

Overall, it's a great little axe in a do-it-all-well size and pattern.

No problems with it yet and I use it pretty hard sometimes. I have used a couple HB's before so maybe I'm just used to the beard. I am really surprised yours bent and straightened with pliers. Was it a Velvicut? Usually the edge sort of shatters a little when I hit a stone or something with different axes I've used.
Might be a good time to file that edge a little blunter.

Great job cattledog. I really like that velvicut. What do you think about the council tool hudson bay 1.75lb axe? its basically the same size but it isnt a velvicut. half the price too. Do you think it would be pretty good? also, ive never used a hudson bay style head. is there a difference in the way it cuts and such? like is it better for splitting, chopping, etc.? Thanks!
There is a review around somewhere about that one. I passed on that one because of a couple of things but mostly because 1.75lb isn't a weight I like. The 2lb head does more for me while camping.
Honestly I bought it because I like the head style with the big 4.25 inch blade. I like having that angle or curve to the bottom to hook stuff with. I don't know if I would say it is better at chopping than other axes but it will hold it's own.

There are better axes out there I think this one is overpriced and should be around $100
I like mine but it did take some work with a file to make it a good user. Should have been profiled better out of the box for the price I payed imo. That wetterlings is a good axe if you ever get to put it to the wood. I also like the Husqvarna all around axe I think its called.
 
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