Putting together an edge pro kit to buy

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dataz722

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I am looking for some input about the edge pro and everything I am looking to get. In addition to what I have listed I am going to try to make some glass blanks for tapes and some plain ones for different leather strops. It should be much each and not too difficult at all to do.

Edge Pro 2 Piece Stone Set (220 and 330)
Edge Pro 120 Grit Stone
5/16" Drill Stop Collar
Edge Pro Guide Clip (x4)
"Try me" Horse Strop for Edge Pro
140 Grit Diamond Stone Flattening Plate
Edge Pro Apex 3 (inlcludes machine 120,220,320,600,1000 stones, ceramic hone, and misc items)


Anything else I should get or consider making or anything in there that isn't neccisary? I am looking to just use cheap stones for now.

Thanks.
 
If you get the Apex-3, you won't need the first two items on the list, those stones are already included and don't wear quickly (except the 120, which you won't be using if you have a decent diamond plate). Also, the guide clips can be skipped, my original one is still in great shape, and I've done dozens of knives on the Apex now.

Which diamond plate are you looking at?

The blanks are quite easy to make, if you have a hack saw, a file, and a tape measure you should have no difficulty with that at all. Power tools only make it easier. :)
 
I was getting extra of the 3 plates because I had hears they can wear through pretty quickly. If that isn't the case I wouldn't mind saving that almost $40.

It is just a cheap diamond plate. I probably wouldn't be using it for blades much if at all. I have it in there for flattening the stones. I am on my phone now so linking to it will be a pain but it is listed just like I have it for 19.99 on chefknivestogo.


The blanks do look to be quick cheap and easy to make, especially with my angle grinder.
 
Also, where do you guys all get the sheets that you cut down to use aa the tapes. I looked at lowest and couldn't find anything.
 
I prefer to use the Edge Pro 'stone leveling kit' over diamond plates. I feel like I wore a large diamond plate out quickly. Their kit is much cheaper, esp. in the long run. You might also want to consider an Angle Cube.
 
Take a look at the Chosera stones. They are expensive, but very nice to use. If you only do trailing strokes, they'll last much longer, as they do tend to get worn out quickly.
 
Personally, I'd probably pick up one of Ken's diamond film plates to start out with, they last an agreeably long time if you go easy on them, and the 125u will make reprofiling FAR quicker and more straight-foward than using the stock stones!

The 120 DOES wear quickly compared to the others, but that is rather relative. You can expect to be able to do probably a hundred or more knives before you get into serious wear where you'd be considering replacing it. Average, of course, a massive reprofile will use up more stone, etc. By and large, I'd just grab the Apex-3 kit, a 125u Diamond Film, and the stop collar to start out with. Once you get the feel for those, THEN look at upgrades. To begin with, I'd just hand-strop, probably on just a basic leather strop, on my desktop.
 
wvdavidr said:
I prefer to use the Edge Pro 'stone leveling kit' over diamond plates. I feel like I wore a large diamond plate out quickly. Their kit is much cheaper, esp. in the long run. You might also want to consider an Angle Cube.
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I was going to get the kit but it is damn near $50 and the diamond plate is only 20, how quickly did you wear out the plate? And I will probably get an angle cube at some point in the near future but just trying to keep the cost of it down for now.

stoffi said:
Take a look at the Chosera stones. They are expensive, but very nice to use. If you only do trailing strokes, they'll last much longer, as they do tend to get worn out quickly.
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I am not trying to upgrade the stones just yet. I might in the future but not now.

Komitadjie said:
Personally, I'd probably pick up one of Ken's diamond film plates to start out with, they last an agreeably long time if you go easy on them, and the 125u will make reprofiling FAR quicker and more straight-foward than using the stock stones!

The 120 DOES wear quickly compared to the others, but that is rather relative. You can expect to be able to do probably a hundred or more knives before you get into serious wear where you'd be considering replacing it. Average, of course, a massive reprofile will use up more stone, etc. By and large, I'd just grab the Apex-3 kit, a 125u Diamond Film, and the stop collar to start out with. Once you get the feel for those, THEN look at upgrades. To begin with, I'd just hand-strop, probably on just a basic leather strop, on my desktop.
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Thanks. Got a link for the film?

I didn't know it would be that many sharpening before I would need a new one. I will certainly hold off on buying the extra stones for now then. Thanks.

The reason I was going to strop on the EP is just because I have already ordered a 12"x12" sheet of leather to make a strop and will have plenty left over. I might as well just make a strop for the EP too.
 
The "Ken's Corner" section over at CKTG is full of interesting stuff! You can find the diamond plate HERE.

Well if you've got the leather coming already, then I'd just use some Super-77 and stick some on a plain blank, myself. Either way, not a particularly big expense. Some of the edges Tom Blodgett has posted after using the Kangaroo leather strops that Ken sells and his sub-micron CBN formulations are REALLY impressive.

This is darn addictive, you start thinking that you've got everything you need... and ten thousand dollars and five years later, you're causing tiny little nuclear explosions in your sink as your edge slices apart quantum states of the water. :D
 
Komitadjie said:
The "Ken's Corner" section over at CKTG is full of interesting stuff! You can find the diamond plate HERE.

Well if you've got the leather coming already, then I'd just use some Super-77 and stick some on a plain blank, myself. Either way, not a particularly big expense. Some of the edges Tom Blodgett has posted after using the Kangaroo leather strops that Ken sells and his sub-micron CBN formulations are REALLY impressive.

This is darn addictive, you start thinking that you've got everything you need... and ten thousand dollars and five years later, you're causing tiny little nuclear explosions in your sink as your edge slices apart quantum states of the water. :D
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Thanks, I hadn't see Kens Corner before. Would it be better to spend the extra $5 and get the 2x6" one? To me it would seem it would be easier to flatten the stones on that one and it should still work in the EP I think.

Also, the only reason I had that kangaroo strop on there was because it was really cheap. I think it is $7 so I figured I would just get that until I make a few more myself.


Ok, so now I have:

EP Apex 3 kit
Collar
Either 1x6 or 2x6 125u diamon
Cheap kangaroo strop

Then just gets som adhesive, plate glass, cheap "tapes", leather, compound, and aluminum bar stock and I should be pretty much set.

I was trying to wait, but I might just end up pulling the trigger on this today. :D
 
The Kangaroo strop is REALLY something, it's at its best with the ultra-fine compounds that Ken sells. With those, the edges it will make are CRAZY!

The 2x6 will work just as well for profiling, and does afford more surface area as well, so it should wear longer. Unless you are doing a lot of small knives or knives with recurves, there's really no reason not to get the 2x6. I use a 2x6 DMT plate for flattening my stones, I would imagine the diamond film would work just about the same in terms of size. Be sure to do the flattening with plenty of water, I actually do mine under a running tap.

That kit sounds like a darn good setup right there! I say go for it! :D
 
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