Q About the steel used in the modern Old Hickory knives. (Ontario Knife)

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Picked one up at the local hardware. I am taking the the secondary bevel off and apexing the primary bevel. A scandi if you will? I'm making a kitchen slicer for my bride.

I am using my EC DMT plate and boy is the metal coming off slow. The EC is the coarsest I have. Is the steel in their knives particularly hard? Certainly seems so.
David
 
Something odd in that. Looking at specs for one of their 1095 kitchen knives, they show the hardness at 53-58 HRC. Even so, 1095 has very little abrasion-resistance (no hard carbides at all), so it should still grind easily on most any abrasive.

I've noticed issues in grinding some simpler steels on XC or other very coarse diamond hones; I think it likely has more to do with the steel swarf clogging the coarse grit, and less about the hardness or abrasion-resistance of the steel. XC diamond hones can clog almost immediately with steels like these, and grinding virtually stops.

May sound strange, but you might try a less-aggressive abrasive like SiC* or aluminum oxide; OR, try grinding the same blade on a finer-grit diamond hone. I've noticed a lot more success with these steels on diamond no coarser than a DMT 'Coarse', and I often use their 'Fine' for jobs like this. For whatever reason, the finer grit diamond seems not to clog as easily on steels like this. I've almost never used an XC diamond, because I got tired of the hones clogging so fast on these simpler steels. Fast clogging sort of makes sense to me, in that the large grit in super-hard diamond is likely stripping the steel off in thick ribbons, until it clogs up.

* I've also had good results with wet/dry SiC sandpaper on 1095. 220-320 works very fast on it.


David
 
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1095 Carbon. Should be around 55 Rockwell.

Not too hard to sharpen. I've gotten great edges on mine but never tried to Scandi one.
 
A modern Ontario knife - I bought about 18 months ago - in 1095 steel, and just tested 53rc on my hardness tester.
 
Good info guys!

David, I'll try a lesser grit plate tonight or at least set up close to the sink so I can rinse it often. I suspect you are spot on because I have never seen this EC plate not cut any better than is does on this knife. Especially since Blunt tested his at 53rc the EC plate should cut with no problem. I am going to order a set of Shapton Pro stones soon but right now all I have is my set of DMT plates. Although I do have a block and 200G wet/dry sandpaper I could try. Thanks guys.
David
 
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