Queen

[benyaM95 Ranger Knif]

Hi guys
Just wondering about Queen vs Case vs SCHATT & MORGAN and other similar knives with CARVED BONE. Which would you reomend
Thanks

 

[rifon2]

Queen uses D2 steel in their slipjoint knives, so that's a big plus.
Schatt & Morgan is the "premium" line of knives from Queen Cutlery - they've got more
detailing, etching; a better fit and finish.

(Both Queen & Schatt & Morgan are owned by Ontario Knives.)

Generally speaking, the Schatt & Morgans are gentleman's knives, and many are sold to collectors who never even intend to used them.
Most are made with 420HC blades, which is decent blade steel which takes a beautiful mirror finish.
But the Queen D2 will hold its edge longer; it's a really fine blade steel.

However, Schatt & Morgan puts out a line of knives called the "File & Wire Tested" Series.
Almost all of them are made with ATS-34 blades, and ATS-34 is an excellent steel.

As for Case, whole books have been written about the company and its knives.
So I'll just sort of summarize by saying that they're well made pocketknives that use decent blade steel which they call "Tru-Sharp". (It's generally assumed to be 420HC).
They also make a few knives with 154CM blade steel, which is a top blade steel nearly identical to the ATS-34 used by Schatt & Morgan in their File & Wire tested series.
And they also make some knives with carbon steel (non stainless) blades which they call "CV". While the Case CV ("chrome vanadium") blades will take on a patina with use, they also will take a very sharp edge - and hold it longer - than the Case "Tru-Sharp" blades.

So, if you want a real pretty pocketknife and intend to use it often, look at the Schatt & Morgan File & Wire Series with ATS-34 blades.
If you want a good using pocketknife, look at the Queen with D2 blades.
The Case with CV blades or 154CM are also excellent users.
If you want a good general all around pocketknife, the Case Tru-Sharp knives fit the bill just fine (as will the Queen).

There's an endless "Case or Queen" debate; I generally choose knives based on blade steel - assuming they're generally comparable otherwise.

 

[knarfeng]

One additional note to add to rifon's reply. Queen edges sometimes leave a bit to be desired as far as sharpness OOB. And sharpening up a new D2 blade can be a bit of work. But once that edge is achieved, maintaining it is not hard.

 

[pinetree]

I am heading off to a party and just slipped my Queen Canoe, in 1095, into my shorts. As far a pocket knives, you can't go wrong with Case. Many will push for CV vs. True Sharp stainless. I have both and while the CV takes an easier edge, the TS is low maintenance. I'd go for the pattern and scale material you like and if CV is avialable, get it, if not no big deal. My Case's are mostly knock around knives. I was just working in the garden picking peppers with a Case Jr Sodbuster in CV. You can typically buy two Cases for the price of one Queen and three for one S&M.

However, the knife I carry most is a Boker traditional slip joint. If you want US only, nevermind.

I buy Cases and Bokers for myself but ask for Queens as a present. I would avoid Moore Maker as both the knifes I got from them, one made by Queen and the other Camillus, are nowhere worth the price.

This is how I rate the slippies that I would buy:

Premium: S&M, Queen and Canal Street Cutlery - gifts to me
Mid-grade: Case, Boker(Soligen) - can't go wrong with these guys.
Low-Grade: none

There are some other like Great Eastern and Northwoods that are neat. For some my list will be pedestrian, but to me it is reasonable. Go visit the Traditional forum here, it has a lot of information - be forewarned, some memeber as awesome photo takers and you may end up with a collection of knives. I have a dozen or so trad. slip excluding SAK's.

 

[benyaM95 Ranger Knif]

Thank you guys. I ended up calling Bill Horn( I purchased a couple of knives from him before), and got me a Tidioute Pioneer Brimstone with 1095. Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure, I caught a “slip” bug So S&M and Queen aren’t far away

 

[WhitleyStu]

Top knife is a Queen/Dan Burke and the rest are Schatt & Morgans. Great quality knives in a mid-price range...