quenching oil

J. Neilson

J. Neilson

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I e-mailed K&G about the quenching oil they offered in their catalog. This was the response.
WE SELL TEXACO "FAST QUENCH" OIL. IT IS PRIMARILY USED BY THE GUYS DOING FORGE WELDING OR FORGING CARBON STEELS.
SORRY I CAN'T BE OF MORE HELP TO YOU.
Is this the good stuff Ed's been talking about in previous threads? In the catalog it's only called "fast quench heat treating oil", it goes for $9.00 for 1 gallon and $40.00 for 5 gallons. I've been using Goddard's goop for edge quenches (love the stuff) and an ATF, motor oil and such mix for full quenches. I thought a might play with something new other than lard and blood.
 
J. Neilson,

I'm not trying to solicit any business, but I thought that I would let you know that I have a post going right now regarding the Texaco Quenchtec Type A. It seems that there are a few of us looking for the same thing and if I can get my hands on some of this oil I will be more than happy to share it with anyone who wants some at my cost plus shipping and containers etc. Right now I am going to see if I can get us a bulk discount by ordering more than one drum. If I buy one drum it works out to be about 6.75 per gallon plus the shipping and containers. Watch for my other post for info.

Rick
 
Hey Rick,

Yeah, your earlier thread was what got me thinking about it. I was just wondering if anyone knew if this was the good stuff or not, since the guy at K&G didn't seem to be able to answer. I'm sure if it was, someone would have mentioned it already but, it's such a small listing in the catalog (and not on the computer) so it may have been overlooked. I know I went by it a few times myself. Any ideas?

Also, if you do get ahold of some, please let me know. Thanks.
 
Hey J.,

I can't even begin to tell you how tough it has been to get the correct information so that I would know what to look for. Then, I had to find it. Thanks in a big part to Ed Fowler, he got me a name of a gentleman in California that had purchased the correct stuff recently and even offered to sell me some if I couldn't find any. To make a long story short, I have found a local supplier of the correct stuff and I was told that it won't be a problem to get it!!!!

The type A is a slower quench than what it sounds like K&G is selling, and from what I can tell, it is a big part of what Ed is able to accomplish. I will let you know as soon as I get some.

Rick
 
Not to play Devil's Advocate, and not to be "different," but is specially formulated quenching oil really all that its cracked up to be? Is it really necessary? I have been making flintlock parts for years and quenching in unused gear oil, transmission fluid, motor oil, etc. What is it about his new Texaco stuff that is so exciting? please enlighten me, because up until now I have always believed it to be the "wettability" and temp of the quench that does the job, not so much the actual medium. =)

Jeff
 
But flintlock parts aren't knives. They do not need to cut, hold an edge, be easily resharpened, take major impact and lateral stresses, etc. You are correct in that many different quench media will get steel hard, but hard is only one of many variables in a knife.

John
 
but... but...

My Uncle Charles was a blacksmith in Hall Quarry, Maine for 50+ years. He supplied all the quarrymen their drills. Hardened is hardened, yes? He worked with nothing but a bellows coal forge and some steel. He had no special oils or sub-zero quench, but those drills ground their way through tough granite day after day.

So I ask (just for the sake of debate): is "special" oil worth all the fuss, or just another marketing ploy by yet another big corporation to get us to buy?

Peace

Jeff
 
Hi Higgy, This is just my opinion(you know what they say about opinions)... I am making knives and I want them to be high performance knives. If someone (Ed Fowler) has been able to do incredible things with his processes, I want to avoid reinventing the wheel until I can catch up. So to me, the oil is "special", it's what Ed has used to do the things that he has done. There probably are other ways of achieving the same goals, but I'm just starting out so I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. The oil by itself is just one piece of the puzzle. There are a lot more processes to master along my journey. Hope that makes sense.

Rick
 
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