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festerfromnzed

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I have asked this question before and didnt get an answer,so i thought id try again before i consult the Oracle (BRL)..Is there a specific name or pattern or ? for knives that have both a slipjoint and a locking blade?.....with thanks.....................................FES

 
A little bit Country, and a little bit Rock and Roll!!:D

In other words, I don't know . . .
 
Also don't know. The few I've seen, all seem to be maker-dependent, as to what they call them. Generically, I've just known them as '______ knife with locking main blade', or something to that effect. The traditional patterns I've seen, with such a config, are usually described by the traditional pattern name (trapper, folding hunter, etc), sometimes with little/no specific reference to the lock itself.

I do have a couple of Camillus-designed Moore Maker knives called 'Double Lockback' (smaller copperhead pattern trapper, and larger 'jumbo' trapper; both blades lock on each of them).


David
 
To support what David said, these Rough Riders have a locking main which is released by depressing the closed secondary Wharncliffe
blade against the spring. I've always seen them listed as "Locking Trapper." The only thing trapper-like about them is the frame.

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That knife is a Kershaw but it looks like a dressed up version of a Gerber Sportsman (from the late 1970s/early 1980s period) with a non-locking slipjoint blade. Traditional knives with one locking blade along with non-locking blades in the frame isn't anything new or unusual. One example would be a Locking Stockman where the main blade locks in the open position while the other two blades are merely non-locking slip joint blades. Tony Bose made a knife like this and I think there was a Case/Bose version made and Rough Rider makes one and I think Moore Maker had them made by Queen a ways back.

One complaint about the Stockman knives made with the main locking blade was that the spring was weak and the snap poor. It (the spring) didn't need to be strong with great snap because the blade locked open and didn't depend on the spring to assist in holding it open - much like the GEC #72 lockback.
 
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Got a Barehead Weidmannsheil stag knife, 4.25" with that arrangement Jeff. Spear master, Coping minor, a very handy device.

As for a name/pattern no idea. How about Slockjoint..:D
 
I don't know the about Kershaws but this model by PJ Tomes had one spring for both the locking and non-locking blades. (What is PJ doing these days, retired?)
festerfromnzed, PJ called'um a model 109X :D

 
Nice sleek & slim knife that, Rob. Lot of Tomes' work looks particularly good in stag from what I've seen.

Thanks, Will
 
This is a Rough Rider Lockback Stockman with a lockback main blade held open with a lockbar and released by a lockbar.

NOT MY PICTURE - taken from the net.

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It actually takes on the appearance of a whittler as they had to move the sheepsfoot blade to the butt end to I suspect accomodate the locking mechanism of the lockbar/lockup. Anyway, it gives you an idea of a trraditional knife with both lockback and slipjoint blades.
 
This is an example of a 2-blade folder that's got a locking main, but simply labelled as a 'Two Blade Trapper'. The product description goes into some detail about the locking main blade (unlocks by pressing in on the closed secondary blade), but the knife itself is simply named according to it's trapper-like heritage. It's A.G. Russell's version of an older pattern that inspired him:

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David
 
Thank you all for the replies to my query,it is indeed a bit of an oximoron it seems.....I am surprised that the cutlery industry hasnt given such knives a SPECIFIC name...Sliplock sounds right to me.............FES
 
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