Question about a Herbertz Tanto

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Hello. I signed up long ago, but have just been a lurker. So I humbly ask for some advise. I want to buy a tanto style knife. Mostly for fun. But I want one that also can actually be used so that I can test it out. I have set my eyes on the Herbertz Tanto.
Now, I know nothing of steel grades, so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about this one. Or were to get a proper one. I have seen the Cold Steel one, but it seems to thick to use (I am not going to use it for self defense of any sort).
 
I am mostly interested in a blade so I can make the handle and sheet myself. So if anyone here makes such a thing, I would very much like to see.
 
I don't read German? but it look like the blade is some variety of 420 stainless. You will most likely be dissappointed in blade performance. The reason companies use 420 steels is they are cheap, they are available in coil stock and the low carbon content means they are easy on the tooling.
 
What about a CRKT Hissatsu?
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http://www.1sks.com/store/crkt-jason-williams-hissatsu.html
 
the cold steel ones are actually pretty good for EDCing and come in Aus 8a, a middle grade steel, but one that is heat treated exceptionally well, and as was previously stated its made in 420 ss, overall not the best kind of steel
 
If you're going to have it as a self defense knife,what do you want a tanto style knife for?
 
Ta for the repleys guys:) About the 420 steel, it seems several people say its not very good. And after reading Ilovetoolsteel's reply, I begin to understand. Hm.. to bad course I really like the design on the Herbertz one.
I'm not to keen on the CRKT Hissatsu design. To long point for my taste.
The Cold Steel one looks good as said, but I have never been able to enjoy rubber handle. If how ever it is possible to remove the rubber handle so I can put on a wooden one, then it might be.
Anyone have more suggestions? I like the designs of both the Herbertz and the Cold Steel (except for the rubber handle).
 
BTW does anyone know if there are any genuine Cold Steel tantos on Ebay? I know for a fact there is ALOT of fake stuff there and that Ebay doesn really care wether its genuine or fake. And I read another place that there are Cold Steel fakes there. The reason I ask, is Cold Steel dont take Paypal as far as I know, which is the way I can pay.
 
Herbertz is in general not an interesting brand. Yes, they are Europe's largest distributor, but they don't make any knives themselves. The affordable ones all come from China, which these days is not necessarily a bad thing but in the Herbertz version they always go for the lowest quality steel they can get away with.
The Boker Plus AK10 tanto is very ugly indeed, but probably quite a bit better and still affordable.
 
Yea that was an ugly.. and useless knife. Unless you are to use it for tactical (right term?) use.
 
Well, the only usage of a tanto tip is (as far as I know) tactical, as when applied on a katana it was designed to pierce armor. Aside from its ugly looks, I expect the Boker Plus to work better than the Herbertz because of the better steel.
 
Yea I know the tanto is meant for tactical use and has always been. This is more an usage experiment and me just wanting one to support my knife fetish:) But at the same time I want a good quality that can actually be used.
 
A.L. said:
This has never made any sense to me, and in my opinion, is a stubborn myth and lie.
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no its fact the idea was for the swordsmiths to create a blade that could both cut and thrust well, they drew influences from the chinese dao and jian, now you could be picturing an american tanto which is what is popular these days however the original the japanese tanto is basically a combination of a clip point and an american tanto basically its an oriental clip point
 
I would like it to be around 7 - 9" long. I like the more classic japanes look. I found a guy that have made a amazin looking tanto http://www.arscives.com/bladesign/shobutextured.htm. I am going to email him to see if they are still available.
The kobun is a nice one. My problem after searching around is that most modern tantos has a very sharp "corner" between the two edges (sorry, language barrier). Were as the classic are more rounded. This makes it look better, and makes it more versitile EDC (I assume EDC means every day carry?).
The factual history behind these knifes/swords is unknown to me other then what I read on the web. But the edged tip does make sense to me when it comes to piercing a leather armour. The angled tip edge together with the broadness of the edge would give it a good piercing quality, as it would be like a small knife that cuts rather then pierce and further it would also "open up" the leather with a cut (and not a hole) for the rest of the narrow sword to continue through the muscle tissue in the same manner. Well, my two cents anyways. Only based on logic and leather experience:)
 
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