Question about maroon micarta FF uses...

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I'm wondering if the maroon micarta FF uses is canvas or linen? I've seen it described as both linen and canvas on the internet.
I actually did some copius research on it, and from what I've been able to find, it's most likely maroon linen micarta, but I'd like to know for sure.
I have 2 knives with maroon micarta, and they both appear to be linen, which is fine. I really like the look when finished properly, where the maroon color pops. I've seen many pix online of maroon micarta scales from other knife makers that appear almost black, where the color, for some reason, is virtually gone. Maybe it's the lighting and/or the photography, or maybe there are different sources for the material?
Thanks much!
 
I have several FF knives with maroon micarta and they were all described as being linen micarta. Andy also uses a crimson red micarta which also appears to be linen, however, the written descriptions only say crimson red micarta. Perhaps Phillip can shed some additional light on the subject.
 
Odaon said:
Crimson and maroon are the same material. Just different names.
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When I look at my knives they sure look different. I'll see if I can post a pic later on to illustrate.....being called to breakfast right now
 
I don't know what FF is using now, but maroon and crimson have historically been different. My first FF from 3 years ago was a maroon linen bushfinger. I later acquired a crimson canvas nessmuk. The colors are definitely different. The maroon linen being darker. The crimson canvas has a rustier color. Also, the maroon had a much tighter weave and was definitely linen. The crimson was canvas and had a weave and grain just like natural/green/brown canvas.
 
These pics should illustrate what Kirkwood and I are both saying:

The KEB and the BC Jr are maroon linen micarta while the Bushboot and Hiking Buddy are crimson micarta. My KE Bushie actually sports maroon on one side and crimson on the other......it's one of those unique "one off" knives. I tried to capture it in a pic but it didn't quite turn out.

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Sure enough! I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure I was told they were just different names by Phillip a while back. I'll see if I can find the conversation.
 
I'll let the pics tell the story, aside from the fact that Andy and I had a conversation about the KE Bushie in which he clearly described that the knife had two different colored micarta's, one side maroon & one side crimson. It's entirely possible that the shop currently sources only one flavor to keep them from being confused, and that the description that Ken used is different from how Phillip now describes it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :D
 
I totally believe you and the pictures tell the story perfectly. I was just following up with why I thought they were the same.

I imagine there was a switch in names and usage around the same time that I asked about Crimson vs maroon and that's why those specific examples looked the same. I'm betting they now only use what was previously called Crimson but now call it maroon.

Nonetheless. That KE Bushie is sweet and the different scales makes it that much better.
 
To me the crimson changes shades from one type of lighting to another. Same knife, same day, one shot taken in a local park and the other at a restaurant.

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I'd agree that the Linen Micarta can really "pop" when shined up. Has just a wonderful feel to it in the hand. I just let this one go this last week.

 
We use both linen and canvas.

Prior to me writing the Friday sales thread there was a distinction of maroon linen and crimson canvas. In a effort to make my job easier I just decided to call them both maroon and use the distinction of canvas or linen.
The canvas is much more prevalent in our offerings. Im not sure why but it was very apparent when I complied the examples below.

Here are the offerings of maroon canvas over the past few months

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2016 0429 17 – Bourbon Street Skinner w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes,


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2016 0527 01 – Runt w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, SFT
Convex on spalted ⅛” A2 - $260SOLD!


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2016 0520 21 – Big Sneaky w/ black bolstered maroon canvas, TT
Convex on spalted 5/32” A2


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2016 0513 07 – Bushraptor w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, SFT


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2016 0506 16 – Ladyfinger w/ black bolstered maroon canvas, SFT
Convex on spalted 3/32” A2 - $355

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2016 0422 07 – Hiking buddy w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, SFT


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2016 0401 24 – Bushcrafter Sr. w/ black bolstered maroon canvas, Tapered Tang
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2016 0311 19 – Snubnose w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, Tapered Tang

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2016 0304 17 – Woodchuck w/ black bolstered maroon canvas , Tapered Tang
convex on spalted 5/32”


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2016 0304 21 – Camp Muk w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, Tapered Tang

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2016 0603 01 – Sgian Dubh w/ maroon canvas over natural liners & white pinstripes, SFT




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2016 0617 16 – KE Bushie w/ natural bolstered maroon canvas, TT
Convex on spalted 5/32”


And here is the maroon linen. I had to go back to December 2015.
There are 2 more that were incorrectly listed as maroon linen that are in fact canvas

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2015 1230 06 – Toboggan w/ maroon linen over black liners & white pinstripes, SFT
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im not sure if that answers any of the questions. If it did not just tell me "No Dummy...I was asking you(insert whatever) ??????":)
 
Thanks everyone for their input! The Bushraptor 4th one down in Philip's pic post is mine. I'm now convinced there really is maroon linen and maroon canvas, and it's been confirmed that my Bushraptor is maroon canvas. My other maroon micarta knife is surely linen. It has a finer weave and not to hard to tell the difference on really close inspection. It's also much darker in tone, and closer to black than the maroon canvas micarta. I like the canvas better since it pops the color more, while the linen is more refined...
As for the crimson micarta, I don't know. I like the look for sure, but i'm not sure I wanna go down that rabbit hole!
Now all I need is to score a Kephart with natty liners, yellow pinstripes, maroon canvas scales over TT 5/32 A2!!! :thumbup:
Who's got one? :D
 
For a year or two, the maroon linen micarta over natural canvas liners with white pinstripes and natural pins was the Fiddleback standard combination. Somewhere there's even a thread where I recall Andy saying he had a fondness for it due to some time spent in Florida. Or else I've lost my mind. :foot::D Anyways, the maroon linen is one of the original synthetic materials of the Forge and I'm glad to see it continues to be offered. The linen has a very tacky feel while presenting like no other synthetic, hands down. The black canvas bolster/liner with maroon linen scales is on my list.
 
trestle said:
For a year or two, the maroon linen micarta over natural canvas liners with white pinstripes and natural pins was the Fiddleback standard combination. Somewhere there's even a thread where I recall Andy saying he had a fondness for it due to some time spent in Florida. Or else I've lost my mind. :foot::D Anyways, the maroon linen is one of the original synthetic materials of the Forge and I'm glad to see it continues to be offered. The linen has a very tacky feel while presenting like no other synthetic, hands down. The black canvas bolster/liner with maroon linen scales is on my list.
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it would probably have to do with his time spent at Florida State

their colors are maroon & gold
 
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