Question about the military

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I just received the Spyderco Military today. Love the knife, yet had a question. Is the G-10 strong enough on its on, or does it need steel liners. Answers are very much appreciated. Les Meas.
 
Do you mean like taking the steel liners out to reduce the weight?
I feel like that could compromise the structure of the knife a bit.
 
Thank you for the replies. Was curious about it not having steel liners, and the strength of the G-10. Les Meas.
 
It does have partial liners although I can't recall if they are steel or titanium. There are pockets milled out within the G-10 to hold them.
 
The g-10 Millies have nessled(sp?) liners built into the g-10 to make them stronger than just g-10.
 
The liners extend just past the back spacer. In addition to the liner lock, I think they're mainly to secure the screws (tapped threads) rather than add much strength. G10 is pretty strong stuff.
 
I have had my G10 Millie for about 4 years and I beat that knife daily not really lol. I sure do use it though I work in a custom leather shop and it has to be one great blade to stay by my side. Working wih leather and having a great blade go hand in hand it is a must have. Let me tell ya the military will take anything you throw at it. It is an amazing knife I like the G10 model so much I just bought the Ti version of it about 2 weeks ago and its even better!!!! On a scale of 1-10 its a 15 I mean that!!!
 
steampunk said:
I just received the Spyderco Military today. Love the knife, yet had a question. Is the G-10 strong enough on its on, or does it need steel liners. Answers are very much appreciated. Les Meas.
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G10 on its own is a very strong material and the first Military models that came out did not even have partial steel liners.

It is one of the flagship models of Spyderco and has been carried and used by members since it was introduced.

You might find the following intresting:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/993187-Use-and-abuse-military
 
Here are a few thoughts from Sal Glesser on the Military I found. Note that these quotes are old and date back a lot of years.

Military Design

Gene - Thank you. The Military Model was designed to be the "state of the art" Produc tion folder of the time. We believe the 2nd generation version is that. Every one of the many parts in this model was examined and refined. We listen to all of the comments (good and some negative), but our own constant testing enforces our beliefs. We believe that nested liners are more evolved and stronger than separate liners. And more expensive to produce. (Ask for favorite custom maker how much more they will charge you to nest their "full liner" just inside the scale like Spyderco's Military). "Form", in addition to the "pins" create rigidity. It may be possible to "white knuckle" a lock release, but this hasn't happened to our knowledge. Being able to easily close the knife after hard user with gloves on was a major consideration. Any of you that have had a folder lock open and not be able to close it? It's like a chain saw that won't stop...what do you do with it? The new "SecurLok" that Frank Centofante invented is scheduled to be added to the Military Model somethime in '99. This would eliminate the fear of accidental lock release.

The Military Model was not designed as a fighting knife, nor was it designed for suit and tie carry. It was designed to be the most dependable cutting tool accessory a soldier might need while in the "bush". The handle is a little larger to afford the dual grip potential. Design is always a great discussion because there are so many points of view. eg: blades are for cutting, handles are for holding. A 2" blade specifically designed for controlled cutting loses it's ability to control if the handle is only just long enough to cover the blade. Nothing to purchase on. A scalpel is a good example of this. What is the knife designed to do. Look at? by all means, balance the sizes to apperarance, use? tougher problem here. Just one designers point of view. I have avoided responding to this thread as it was my design in question and this was a comparision type question. It would be expected that I would be biased.
sal

Design preferences make the industry interesting. Both Gayle and Ed are of the opinion that the relief is not as safe as no relief. Both are highly skilled at designing knives, making knives and cutting with them. Both are champion cutters in competition. My linerlock designs include a relief. I'm often wearing gloves and I prefer them in general. I've heard many complain about my Military and Sage linerlock designs because they feel the relief is unsafe.

Both approaches are valid. That's why we make both. For those that want a relief, it's easier to create one.

sal
 
marthinus said:
Here are a few thoughts from Sal Glesser on the Military I found. Note that these quotes are old and date back a lot of years.

Military Design

Gene - Thank you. The Military Model was designed to be the "state of the art" Produc tion folder of the time. We believe the 2nd generation version is that. Every one of the many parts in this model was examined and refined. We listen to all of the comments (good and some negative), but our own constant testing enforces our beliefs. We believe that nested liners are more evolved and stronger than separate liners. And more expensive to produce. (Ask for favorite custom maker how much more they will charge you to nest their "full liner" just inside the scale like Spyderco's Military). "Form", in addition to the "pins" create rigidity. It may be possible to "white knuckle" a lock release, but this hasn't happened to our knowledge. Being able to easily close the knife after hard user with gloves on was a major consideration. Any of you that have had a folder lock open and not be able to close it? It's like a chain saw that won't stop...what do you do with it? The new "SecurLok" that Frank Centofante invented is scheduled to be added to the Military Model somethime in '99. This would eliminate the fear of accidental lock release.

The Military Model was not designed as a fighting knife, nor was it designed for suit and tie carry. It was designed to be the most dependable cutting tool accessory a soldier might need while in the "bush". The handle is a little larger to afford the dual grip potential. Design is always a great discussion because there are so many points of view. eg: blades are for cutting, handles are for holding. A 2" blade specifically designed for controlled cutting loses it's ability to control if the handle is only just long enough to cover the blade. Nothing to purchase on. A scalpel is a good example of this. What is the knife designed to do. Look at? by all means, balance the sizes to apperarance, use? tougher problem here. Just one designers point of view. I have avoided responding to this thread as it was my design in question and this was a comparision type question. It would be expected that I would be biased.
sal

Design preferences make the industry interesting. Both Gayle and Ed are of the opinion that the relief is not as safe as no relief. Both are highly skilled at designing knives, making knives and cutting with them. Both are champion cutters in competition. My linerlock designs include a relief. I'm often wearing gloves and I prefer them in general. I've heard many complain about my Military and Sage linerlock designs because they feel the relief is unsafe.

Both approaches are valid. That's why we make both. For those that want a relief, it's easier to create one.

sal
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Thanks Marthinus. Previously I had only heard a couple of things from Sal regarding the Millie. That was quite enlightening.
 
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