Question for those of you in nyc

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Ok so I'm unfortunate enough to be working in nyc this week, and would like to avoid getting locked up on a bs knife charge. I'll be walking to the job with my rolling tool bag, which has my beater $12 gas station flipper in it for cutting taped boxes and my s110v pm2 for breaking down boxes. Since I'm obviously working (a husky tool bag should represent that clearly) will I catch hell from a nosey cop while walking? Like will they try stopping me and searching my tool bag?
 
Not in NYC but ...

1 - I thought the mayor won't allow the police to do 'stop n frisk'.

2 - just for this trip, ya could just replace the flipper and PM2 with a razor blade utility knife.
 
Unless you are dressed like a gangbanger or acting deranged, I doubt a cop is going to stop and frisk you for no reason. That being said, if you are walking through certain neighborhoods at 3am pulling your bag behind you, then yea u might get searched. They also will sometimes do spot checks on the subways and Port Authority sometimes if there is a perceived threat going on.
That being said, I can almost promise you that if found, they will give you a hard time about the flipper on the knife. I almost got in trouble once from a Buck 112 that a cop tried calling a gravity knife, but got away with it by dropping the name of a relative that's in the NYPD. My EDC in the city is a g10 Dragonfly with the tension screw torqued down so you almost have to open it two handed. Also, pocket clips are a huge no-no.... the above advice is probably best. Unless you know the little nuances of NYC knife law, just carry a utility knife in your bag, it will be a lot easier in the end
 
Yea I may just do that, this trip was an unexpected stop and thankfully after tomorrow will continue on to Jersey. It's gonna suck thou I hate not having my knives on me...I'll just have to leave the pocket knives in my suitcase with the fixed blades.
 
Yea I may just do that, this trip was an unexpected stop and thankfully after tomorrow will continue on to Jersey. It's gonna suck thou I hate not having my knives on me...I'll just have to leave the pocket knives in my suitcase with the fixed blades.

I hear ya, everyone that carries a knife here rolls the dice every time they leave the house with one, whether it's legal or not. Sad..........
 
Yea that's what led me to ask, I've heard horror stories about nyc. The only places I've been personally harassed by local pd about a knife was Baltimore M.D.and in Huntington beach C.A.
 
I keep wanting to say, "as long as you're not doing anything else suspicious, you should be fine..." and that's probably true, but... I guess there are no guarantees in life, are there?
 
Best bet would be to pick up a nice new Swiss army knife like the cadet or electrician for yourself. If your gonna carry anything , NO VISIBLE POCKET CLIPS, be judicious about when ,where and how you use your knife as well and you should be.fine.
 
I literally flew in went straight to the hotel then drove 9 miles for 2 hours walked 4 blocks to the studios on 64th st from the parking garage then got the hell out there lol. I left my questionably legal knives locked in my suitcase while I was working. I unfortunately just found out I gotta go back there Wed night to work Thursday thou. I'll repeat the same process and just carry my leatherman wave for any cutting tasks.
 
#1 is to not carry a folder clipped to your pocket. Seeing a clip on your pocket is what initiates a stop for most people as knives have to be concealed in NYC (opposite of most areas). Drop it in your pocket and your chances of being stopped are greatly reduced.

#2, make sure the knife's blade is less than 4". NYC has a blade limit of less than 4". Measuring tip to handle is probably the safest bet.

#3, make sure that if your knife has a lock, that you really need 2 hands to open it. This is part of the ridiculous interpretation of "gravity knife" where they test it by swinging a knife while holding the blade, trying to get the handle to swing out. Even if it takes 20 tries, if it opens then they might hassle you. This guy won a lawsuit when his locking knife couldn't be demonstrated to be a gravity knife

You can bypass this issue by carrying a non-locking knife. Examples would be a traditional slip joint, a SAK, some multi-tools like the Leatherman Juice (I believe the blade doesn't lock on this one, just don't carry it on your belt in a pouch). Spyderco also makes slip-its for those who live under strict knife laws but be aware you might still get hassled for one. This guy was carrying a Spyderco UK Pen Knife (I remember them showing a titanium one using KSF's picture on the news) and was arrested but got out of it and won a settlement as his knife as legal. He probably wouldn't have been stopped if his knife wasn't clipped to his pocket in the first place though.

Another option is a small fixed blade but you have to be careful here too as it might be considered a "dangerous knife" (state law, also subject to interpretation)

#4, if you do get stopped for some reason and your knife is asked about, you're carrying it for work as a tool. Never for self defense. Carrying anything for "self defense" is taken as an admission that you're carrying it with intent to use is as a weapon against someone else and you can be arrested.

Hope this helps and try to enjoy your stay!!
 
#1 is to not carry a folder clipped to your pocket. Seeing a clip on your pocket is what initiates a stop for most people as knives have to be concealed in NYC (opposite of most areas). Drop it in your pocket and your chances of being stopped are greatly reduced.

#2, make sure the knife's blade is less than 4". NYC has a blade limit of less than 4". Measuring tip to handle is probably the safest bet.

#3, make sure that if your knife has a lock, that you really need 2 hands to open it. This is part of the ridiculous interpretation of "gravity knife" where they test it by swinging a knife while holding the blade, trying to get the handle to swing out. Even if it takes 20 tries, if it opens then they might hassle you. This guy won a lawsuit when his locking knife couldn't be demonstrated to be a gravity knife

You can bypass this issue by carrying a non-locking knife. Examples would be a traditional slip joint, a SAK, some multi-tools like the Leatherman Juice (I believe the blade doesn't lock on this one, just don't carry it on your belt in a pouch). Spyderco also makes slip-its for those who live under strict knife laws but be aware you might still get hassled for one. This guy was carrying a Spyderco UK Pen Knife (I remember them showing a titanium one using KSF's picture on the news) and was arrested but got out of it and won a settlement as his knife as legal. He probably wouldn't have been stopped if his knife wasn't clipped to his pocket in the first place though.

Another option is a small fixed blade but you have to be careful here too as it might be considered a "dangerous knife" (state law, also subject to interpretation)

#4, if you do get stopped for some reason and your knife is asked about, you're carrying it for work as a tool. Never for self defense. Carrying anything for "self defense" is taken as an admission that you're carrying it with intent to use is as a weapon against someone else and you can be arrested.

Hope this helps and try to enjoy your stay!!
Thanks, I feel bad for y'all who have to live with such bs. Down in sc I can carry whatever I want however I want...feel like shoving a machete down your pants no problem lol I left the bk16, and pm2 I edc safely in my suitcase along with my beater work knife. Only took my wave with me.
 
Leatherman you should be fine with, but I would still keep it in my pocket and not on a belt sheath. There are some REAL overzealous rookies running around out there. (I know bcuz my cousins kid is one of em Lol!) Enjoy your stay and be sure to hit up Lombardis on Spring street for the best pizza in the UNIVERSE!! :D
 
im from nyc, theoretically a 4 inch fixed blade is legal to carry, but i know cops in ny that dont know that law. dont let any pocket clips show, truthfully dont carry the flipper cuz you might get screwed over in the city.
 
Thanks, I feel bad for y'all who have to live with such bs. Down in sc I can carry whatever I want however I want...feel like shoving a machete down your pants no problem lol I left the bk16, and pm2 I edc safely in my suitcase along with my beater work knife. Only took my wave with me.

Another thing to consider in NYC is that if you are taking your bag on trains/subway, you are subject to random search because of terrorism, etc. If your primary use is opening packages, I'd take a SAK or similar. Not to change the subject, but I spend some time outside of Charleston, SC and I'm under the impression that that city has restrictions. Has that changed? Thanks.

Jordan
 
Another thing to consider in NYC is that if you are taking your bag on trains/subway, you are subject to random search because of terrorism, etc. If your primary use is opening packages, I'd take a SAK or similar. Not to change the subject, but I spend some time outside of Charleston, SC and I'm under the impression that that city has restrictions. Has that changed? Thanks.

Jordan
I'm not sure about Charleston, I live in Lexington. State law in sc is very lenient, autos and such are completely legal for open or concealed carry, any size fixed blade is legal for open or concealed carry.

I've read that Columbia has some restrictions on the books, but from my experiences and talking with local leo's it's very seldom enforced. Like you'd have to already be up to no good for them to be concerned about what knife you have.

Just the other day I saw a guy walking around home depot with a sword on his back walking dead style and no one batted an eye lol. If you were to try that in one of the commie states you'd likely cause wide spread panic leading to being tazed, arrested, or shot.



I love the south lol
 
Me and my lady went to NYC for the day in November and I carried a Camilla linerlock with a 3 1/2" blade and she a crkt drifter and didn't get hassled at all. Even had to check them in a few places like the 9 11 memorial which I was pretty nervous about but ended up being fine
 
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