Question: Is Full Tang Dui Chirras RARE?

JayGoliath

JayGoliath

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Good day.

Was reading one of the posts made in 2006, 2 Full tang Dui Chirras were offered as DOTD. Made by Master Bura.

Does the full tang version commonly available nowadays?

Thanks.

Jay:)
 
Dui Chirra are somewhat rare but full tang models, also called chiruwa are quite common.
Full Tang Dui Chirra are not a common occurance.
 
Well the only things "commonly available" (I'm guessing you mean consistently in stock or found in the DotDs) are the basic models: BASes, AKs, CAKs, WWIIs, Sirupatis, etc. Just about everything else Aunty has in stock tends to be based on trends. For example, I believe the current flavor is the ASTK and before that, the m43...

That all said, there might be a small chance that Aunty has a regular Dui Chirra... but I'm 99% sure that a Chiruwa (full tang) Dui Chirra would require a special order as it most likely isn't in stock.
 
Just emailed Aunty about it.

It's noted that Kamis are overloaded..
Welcome back Murali!

But those full tang Dui Chirras made by Bura are a true beauty.
Has anyone got one? was there any review?

The HIKV, full tang Dui Chirra version is biting deep!

Many thanks for the help!
 
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Reviews? None that I'm aware of although Karda tends to be much better at finding such threads... it's a long shot, but you could try PMing the people who sharked them in that thread. There are reviews of the dui chirras though. I would personally just read those over and add in my knowledge of chiruwa handles as I read along (i.e. the balance will be more neutral/less tip heavy, the shock of impact might be a bit more noticeable, the handle would arguably be stronger, etc.)

HI has been undergoing some difficult times, but with Murali back and the possibility of new faces in the future, things will hopefully be picking up again :)
 
killa_concept,

HI has been undergoing some difficult times, but with Murali back and the possibility of new faces in the future, things will hopefully be picking up again:)
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I felt hesitated to ask Auntie more details about it.The Kami's are busting their rear off for the backorders already.
Any custom orders will have to wait whilst we saving up for the Pointies.
 
I don't think this is the Dui Chirra you are referring to, but they are beautiful just the same. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=574467&highlight=dui+chirra

The problem in finding info is that there are the Dui Chirra (the Nepali SAK), the Bura Dui Chirra, The Baby Dui Chirra and a couple of Dui Chirra in other styles such as the AK.

Chirra is Nepali for fuller and Dui is Nepali for 2.
Which means blade styles such as this are two fullered. Tin (pronounced teen) Chirras are 3 fullered and so on.
It would greatly aid us to help you if you could link to the thread you found the Dui Chirra in, or post a pic of it.
 
Dear Karda,

Please find thread :
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394983

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I just wet my pants.:eek:
 
I'm a bit thrown off... that looks like a standard dui chirra. I do not see any rivets nor the exposed metal at the handle which would indicate it being chiruwa :confused:
Did Aunty perhaps have a different meaning when she said full tang? Either way, it's a beaut of a blade :)
 
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killa_concept said:
I'm a bit thrown off... that looks like a standard dui chirra. I do not see any rivets nor the exposed metal at the handle which would indicated it being chiruwa :confused:
Did Aunty perhaps have a different meaning when she said full tang? Either way, it's a beaut of a blade.
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Please see this post and my explanation:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3631304&postcount=10

Sorry for the confusion.
Some people, including Auntie, will use the term full tang when referring to the standard khukuri with the thru-tang peened at the buttcap. Most of us here at the forum use the term full-tang for the chiruwa model.
At times this causes some confusion, and with the many different models it can be even more so. That is why i prefer to identify from clear pictures rather than labels or descriptions.
 
Strong, but not as strong as the full tang.

Steve
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When Steve mentioned that, i reckon it's not as strong as the Chiruwa handles, like what killa_concept said, without rivets or exposed tang.

Saying that, Dui Chirras still remain a light and a versatile chopper,agree?

Does Dui Chirras excel in quantity chopping since it's light?:thumbup:
 
JayGoliath said:
Saying that, Dui Chirras still remain a light and a versatile chopper,agree?

Does Dui Chirras excel in quantity chopping since it's light?:thumbup:
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Early made DC's may have been lighter than current(ish) production models have been. The 22inch Dui Chira made Vim Kami I purchased last October weighted in at 45ounces, so its no light weight. But then I don't think 34ounces is light either?:eek:
 
JayGoliath said:
When Steve mentioned that, i reckon it's not as strong as the Chiruwa handles, like what killa_concept said, without rivets or exposed tang.
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someone once said the normal village made stub tang which only goes partway thru the handle and is held on only by the laha glue will need replacing every 5-10 years of constant hard labour. (and that's nepali hard, not lazy american hard :)). many SE Asian weapons have stub tangs and have been used in battle and in normal day to day living without problems for centuries. nothing wrong with them if they are made and fitted correctly. HI do have a few decorative models with stub tangs, but as far as i know, they are all pinned and are not intended for heavy use. they occasionally will offer well made village made models (not made directly by HI) to support more of the non-HI kamis that may or may not have stub tangs and are normally a lot cheaper with a somewhat lesser level of final fit and finish.

the standard HI thru tang which is substantial and goes all the way thru & is peened on the end, and also laha'd will last 20+ years of hard labour. they are most like the tangs on 18 and 19th century military swords before they became obsolete on the battlefield.

the chiruwa slab-sided & riveted tang should last a lifetime or two.

they do not make rat-tail tangs consisting of a threaded soft iron rod badly welded to the blade like in the el-cheapo use once then throw away knives.

some prefer the thru tangs as they offer some cushion for the impact. chiruwa tangs pass all the shock directly to your hand. some say the balance is better on one or the other, but that is subjective.

anyway on the chiruwa, the rivets go thru holes in the tang which reduce the cross section of metal. probably not much different in functional cross section than a grip of the same size in a peened thru tang.

all in all, whichever style tang you choose, all HI product is more than substantially made for anything you are likely to use it for.
 
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Just one aside, thanks for that picture of the tools, now I know I actually not only have a full set but they are all the RIGHT tools. I thought the one with the different handle was a double of one of them but apparently, it isn't. ;)
 
Warty,

Howdie!

I thought the one with the different handle was a double of one of them but apparently, it isn't.
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What's double of one of them?

Why do you think it's all the RIGHT tools? How do you find them useful in the woods ?
Berk Special is known to be the Swiss Army of Khuks.:D
 
the ang khola (back-hollow) has one fuller or depression at the spine, duichirra has two fullers, tinchirra has three. (one fuller would be euchirra)
 
Jay, I was not speaking of yours or your picture, rather I was speaking of the one I have in my collection. Essentially what I was saying was based on looking at this picture, mine must be correct too instead of having a double tool in it as I originally thought. OK?
 
Warty,

I was confused when you mentioned DOUBLE TOOL.

BTW, how do you find those tools handy in the woods?

:D
 
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