Question on 1978 Case Scout knife

[winchester73]

I found this at a pawn shope. The scales are jigged brown. Anyone know if the handles are bone or delrin? Also if the blades are stainless or carbon. Thanks.

 

[Jack Black]

Pictures?

 

[paulhilborn]

Usually if the CASE shield has an oval circle around the word "Case" it's bone if no oval shield around the word Case more than likely Delrin. Usually the way it is, not always though.

Paul

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

What's the pattern number (should be stamped on one of the blade tangs)? Might be 6445R or 640045R, and depending on which one, could make a difference in that vintage (1970s). The 6445R was available in both bone and delrin during the '70s. The guide I'm looking at suggests the 640045R versions from 1970s were only in 'brown composition' (synthetic/delrin, in other words), with no option in bone. I think the 640045R is more commonly found these days, on the 'auction site' and from various other secondary market sellers.

(Edit: The stainless versions should be marked 'SS' after the pattern number, or 'stainless', or both, on the blade tang, BTW.)

As suggested, pics would be very helpful. Usually very easy to see if it's bone or not, if a pic is available.


David

 

[KYenglish]

I have one from 1978/9, pretty sure mine is derlin and it has the pattern number is 640045 R. it is not marked SS or stainless, but I have always assumed it was. Maybe time to cut an apple open with it and find out.

good luck, I really like the feel and look of the cam/scout knives, derlin and SS or not.

 

[winchester73]

I haven't it bought it yet. It just caught my eye. I would really rather have delrin than bone. Drop it and no breaks or cracks.The handles appear brown from end to end not light on the ends in the above pic. What would be a fair price for . It would clean up nice but is not in like new shape like the one above. It had no patina so I would guess it is ss. As an aside i have bought a nice Marbles relica of the Case. It has g-10 scales. Even has a phillips screw drover like some SAKs,not a Case tho'

 

[KYenglish]

Not a bad trait now you mention it

results are in, mines carbon (sorry for the pictures, camera doesn't handle night well )

Obsessed with Edges, I owe you a drink or something, I continue to amaze myself by how much I get wrong

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

Very good. :thumbup:

After seeing your earlier post about wondering if yours was stainless, I was thinking the spotting on yours indicated carbon steel, but wasn't sure. I did some more web-searching. It seems as if Case might not've started using stainless on the 640045R until 1990 (and 'SS' added to the pattern number), with all prior versions apparently in carbon. I need to search some more though; still thinking some earlier ones were stainless too. The 640045R also was a contract knife made for Case by other companies (Camillus probably being the most recent). I used to have one of these, and it went 'missing' many years ago (still don't know when or how), but I can't definitively remember if mine was stainless or not. Pretty sure it was '70s vintage; my dad had gotten it for me back then, when he & I used to go camping/fishing/backpacking a lot. I miss that one.


David

Not a bad trait now you mention it

results are in, mines carbon (sorry for the pictures, camera doesn't handle night well )

Obsessed with Edges, I owe you a drink or something, I continue to amaze myself by how much I get wrong

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

This quote from member 'knifeaholic' makes me feel a little more confident. Knifeaholic (Steve Pfeiffer) is the author of a well-regarded book on collecting Case knives, so I think he speaketh the truth...

( Quoted from this thread -->: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/698090-Wondering-about-Case-Camper-stainless-or-CV )

The 640045R was made in carbon steel until 1990 when it was switched to stainless.

Any Case stainless steel knife will have SS either at the end of the pattern number of in the tang stamping or both.

The 640045R was actually made by Camillus so the steel could be 1095 unless Camillus used Case's CV steel since they were making them to Case's specifications.

David

 

[KYenglish]

Thanks, David

Again, I saw the marks on it but have seen stainless get stained to some extent over the years, but not patina, again, my ignorance continues to amaze even me

thanks for the info and link.