Question on GEC's

texasshipagent

texasshipagent

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I noticed many are very particular about having all the original packing, down to the paper, button and certificate when selling GEC's

My question are there sightings or has there been any reports of counterfeit GEC's ? I know Emerson has or had a counterfeit problem.

Just curious, I use my knives and don't really see a need for the original packing, obviously that would command a lower resale then brand new in the tube, but would anyone doubt that it's a real GEC ?

It seems this forum is fairly well self policed by members, unlike buying an iPhone used off eBay or Craig's list.
 
For me it is a collector thing. I have all my boxes. I think it adds to the experience of getting a knife, new or used: bought, gifted or inherited.
 
No offense to Emerson but slabs of material that are screwed together and a blade that is only ground on one side is a lot easier to mimic than the craftsmanship that GEC demonstrates. The GEC market is also smaller and more into collecting so counterfeits would be harder to pass off.

I don't think I've seen a single hint of a knock-off GEC yet...
 
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Never heard of any counterfeit GEC's. Always nice to have the original box or tube a knife comes with. I tend to use and carry all my knives so it's not a deal breaker for me when buying ir trading.
 
Macchina said:
No offense to Emerson but slabs of material that are screwed together and a blade that is only ground on one side is a lot easier to mimic than the craftsmanship that GEC demonstrates. The GEC market is also smaller and more into collecting so counterfeits would be harder to pass off.

I don't think I've seen a single hint of a knock-off GEC yet...
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You right on Emerson finish, however they are a different category of knife and use, ugly or not they are built to last, just a different focus in design.

My point in reference was they are the only knife have heard of any reported counterfeiting issues.

Just seems some of the forum posts in individual sales seems really aggressive in terms so was trying to determine if that was for a reason or just typical online bravado
 
The buyer is welcome to throw away the packing materials and original box. If they want a knife for their own use that will never be sold, it makes absolutely no difference. If the knife will later be sold, even used, lack of original box or tube will decrease the resale value. Like it or not, agree with it or not, that is the way it is.

I prefer to buy used, previously carried, previously sharpened, no-box knives in decent condition, for a knife I am planning to use myself. That way, the original owner already ate all of the loss on the resale value, so if I ever want to sell it later, assuming I keep it in good shape, I won't lose a dime on it. And if it's a user I plan to keep, then I've saved a good bit versus the new price.
 
There is a huge issue with offshore counterfeits of tacticool knives, not just Emerson. I must have read 10 articles in the past few years on different makers work getting stolen. On the other hand, it is usually untrained "collectors" who get taken by these fakes, many are not close to the design but are marked with good makers names.


Regards

Robin
 
The Original Factory Packaging is a Collector thing. ANY collectible item is worth more with the Original Factory Packaging intact and included. In Knife Collecting specifically, with most modern knives, say after 1969, lack of said packaging can reduce the Book Price of a Collectible Knife by at least 20 to 30%.
 
If your worried about counterfeits I think your looking in the wrong places. Knifecenter is a well known retailer for GEC so you wouldn't have to worry about counterfeits.
 
No I get it, no packaging, less resale, collectibility, decreases, that's on me, was just wondering if there was an issue with fake GEC's where it would be important to prove authenticity, my dad and I had similar conversation, he collects Parker shotguns and made a what would normally be a risky purchase on eBay from an old feller on South Carolina but it was like, they type of people collecting Parker shotguns are not the type to commit a fraud, guess kinda the same here, seems the traditional and slip joint guys are pretty honest crowd it's such a niche

Tacticool knives I get that different crowd, larger base, more chance for fakes and frauds
 
There are numerous cases of Case knives being counterfeited. It has nothing to do with "the crowd. Fraud is not committed by Collectors, but by Counterfeiters.
 
Not heard or seen of any GEC knives being counterfeit - yet.

It wouldn't surprise me for an enterprising agent to notice the popularity, and secondary market prices, of the SFO Barlows and get ideas.

That said, it would be a lot harder to make a passable fake GEC than the other more commonly counterfeited knives.
 
I think it would be hard to counterfeit a GEC for a number of reasons. It is a niche product that few know about. The quality would be difficult to copy. The audience for the knives are very knowledgeable. However I don't think it is wise to under estimate the driven counterfeiter.
 
Not all counterfeit knives are fakes. The various knife companies, Queen in particular, have always had there share of what are called "lunch box knives". Where employees smuggle various knife parts home in their lunch box, then assemble the various parts at home, and sell them as legitimate branded knives.
 
Having said all that, I have seen, GEC knives with the wrong cap on the tube being offered by a "know nothing" dealer to supposedly "know nothing" customers at gun shows. By "know nothing" I mean the guy that say's "I don't know nothing about it. I picked it up as part of a trade". And the customer say's " I don't know nothing about it, but it sure is a pretty knife".
 
Never seen or heard of a GEC counterfeit. As for tossing the packaging, I've gotten rid of a few tubes, but kept the caps for some that are users and will never be sold.
 
texasshipagent said:
You right on Emerson finish, however they are a different category of knife and use, ugly or not they are built to last, just a different focus in design.

My point in reference was they are the only knife have heard of any reported counterfeiting issues.

Just seems some of the forum posts in individual sales seems really aggressive in terms so was trying to determine if that was for a reason or just typical online bravado
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I've seen fake Benchmade, Kershaw, and Spyderco knives being sold. Any knife that is pricey.

If you want to see fake traditional knives, try looking for "Civil War Bowie knife", or other old "collectable" traditional knives, the kind which are often sold for hundreds of dollars.

I have not seen any fake GEC knives.

As for why some folks like the packaging? Personal preference. And there is nothing wrong with that.
 
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