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I have been looking up different steels, and had a question. How would a damascus leek compare to a zdp-189 leek, and how would each of these compare to a zdp-189 mini cyclone?
 
Guilo said:
I have been looking up different steels, and had a question. How would a damascus leek compare to a zdp-189 leek, and how would each of these compare to a zdp-189 mini cyclone?
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What qualities are you trying to compare? Weight, durability, hardness, ease of sharpening, edge profile, etc..?

And welcome to the forums Guilo! Say goodbye to your wallet!
 
Everything :) I have a lot of extra time, so ease of sharpening isn't too important.
 
The blade looks a lot better on the damascus. If you want the best knife...IMHO, go with the TiZDP Leek. Better edge retention and a titanium frame lock to boot. :thumbup:

I don't have a zdp-189 mini cyclone so I can't comment on that other then the zdp 189 rocks.
 
The ZDP/Ti Mini Cyclone IS an awesome knife!! Please keep in mind that I only buy custom knives.
 
The TiZDP Leek has a frame lock, not a liner?

Also, how much better is the ZDP than the Damascus? Because I can get a Damascus Leek for much cheaper than a ZDP.
 
I haven't actually used my Damascus Leek for anything yet, but I have been told by someone that has been carrying one for a bit that the damascus has been as good as 440a for edge holding. Also don't forget it is carbon damascus, so it will need to be maintained (kept oiled) more carefully than the ZDP or S30V blades.

Overall, feedback on the Ti-ZDP Mini-Cyclone has been better than for the Ti-ZDP Leek.

The Ti-ZDP Mini-Cyclone is probably the most practical user of the group.

Of course, the blade on the Damascus Leek looks great and it is priced extremely well.
 
Hate to comment on things I don't have firsthand experience with, but the general impression I've gotten is that the Leek isn't the best shape for a ZDP blade that will see heavy use. The tip is very fine. When used as intended, just cutting and slicing, it probably excels, but the average person tends to lead cuts with the tip instead of the edge, or use the tip for things they shouldn't.

The feedback on the Ti-ZDP Mini-Cyclone pretty much has indicated that Kershaw has hit the nail on the head with this design. The blade shape seems to be more appropriate for the steel. Most of the people commenting on it seem to have put it through some fairly heavy use. Many of the darksiders have had it reground to a thinner profile for even more impressive cutting performance.

If you want a better blade steel than the Damascus in a similar price range, go for the S30V Random Leek or one of the G-10 variants. The S30V is an excellent steel and the Random Leek Blade shape gives a little extra strength (plus it looks great). The Random Leek is a frame lock. The G10 varieties are liner locks.

Generally most people consider ZDP a step up from S30V, but it depends on the use, blade geometry, and many other variables (like marketing skill).

Hopefully someone with more firsthand experience will jump in.
 
Ok, thanks. I don't put my knives to too heavy use, just some farm work, like cutting baling twine, feed sacks, etc. The Mini Cyclone does seem to have a heavier duty blade though.
 
You will LOVE the Mini Cyclone!! I LOVE my zdp/ti Mini Cyclone!! And I ONLY buy custom knives.
 
much has already been said... but you buy damascus for looks and a buttery smooth edge to sharpen. Great for light use.

S30V is an overall hard use steel that is great for EDC.

ZDP189 can hold an edge much longer than s30V, but is harder to sharpen if you let it get dull and is much more expensive.

I agree... the ZDP mini Cyclone is probably the best EDC production folder I've ever used
 
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