Yvsa, what's the status of your forward curving khuk project? When do you expect to have a satisfactory prototype? And, finally, have you and Uncle Bill discussed production? The reason I'm asking about your project is because the khuk you're designing, based on your description in another thread, sounds to me like the perfect khuk. I'm partial to the forward curving style and would certainly like to get on the waiting list for a Yvsa khukuri.
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Steven I have the drawing made.
It is 18" oal and swells to 3" with a 4 1/2" drop measured from the top of the blade to a straight edge layed from the lowest part of the edge to the bottom of the butt cap. It has a True Distal Tapered blade that starts at 5/8" and slims down to 1/2" at the tip. There will be dual fullers similar to the Hanuman blade only fullered more deeply like the GS blade. The thickness at the fullers will be 1/4" thick and will run almost the full length of the blade. The handle will be about 1" wide at te widest point and about 1 1/2" wide. The full curved handle should be very comfotable with that configureation.
Let me try to clear up something though.
What I am designing is not a Forwaed Curving Khukuri as Ganga Ram and Bura has already done that with the GR Special and now the Bura GR style Friendship khukuri's. When you look at the pix of thses you can see a straight section running from just in front of the bolster to the handle.
I am after a Full Curving Khukuri.
It will curve from the point to the butt cap in a very nice Full Arc.
I will probably do some more design work in order to get one that Uncle Bill will confirm to not go over 2 Lbs.
Or at least not more than 2 1/4 Lbs.
My 18" AK is just a tad over 2 Lbs and is very satisfactory and is a knife I wouldn't mind carrying all day.
I Love my GR and admire it so much that I want another one, but its not a knife I would want to carry very far due to its weight.
A person has to draw the line somewhere in the amount of weight they are willing to carry and I have always Loved Big knives.
Since I started buying khukuris my outlook on what a big knife is has changed a lot. I used to think that my CS Trailmaster was big.
I don't know yet if Uncle Bill will even consider this type of design as he has said in the past that the Full curving knives are much harder to make.
Then again it may be priced out of what I would be willing to pay. Of course since i will be a Custom design I would be willing to pay more for it than another similar knife that has the straighter handle.
Now for the Killer stuff and why it is gonna take me a while to finish the prototype fr the khukuri.
I am in the middle of building my Southern Straight Dance Outfit and almost everything is taking a back seat to that.
This is something that I have wanted to do since I was a very young boy and is the 1st opportunity that I have had to afford it. It costs an awful lot of money to be an Indin.
Some parts of it that I bought
cost a $1,000.00 just a few short years ago. Fortunately I didn't have to pay Near That much!!
I have just received the order I made for some supplies to finish my "bells" with. I am using deer toes as in the old way instead of the sliegh bells that almost everyone else uses.
I have never made a pair of moccasins from scratch before and I think that's gonna take me some time.
Be patient my friend. The Yvsa Special will come to us when it's supposed to.
I just hope that everyone else will like it as well as we will.
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Steven I have the drawing made.
It is 18" oal and swells to 3" with a 4 1/2" drop measured from the top of the blade to a straight edge layed from the lowest part of the edge to the bottom of the butt cap. It has a True Distal Tapered blade that starts at 5/8" and slims down to 1/2" at the tip. There will be dual fullers similar to the Hanuman blade only fullered more deeply like the GS blade. The thickness at the fullers will be 1/4" thick and will run almost the full length of the blade. The handle will be about 1" wide at te widest point and about 1 1/2" wide. The full curved handle should be very comfotable with that configureation.
Let me try to clear up something though.
What I am designing is not a Forwaed Curving Khukuri as Ganga Ram and Bura has already done that with the GR Special and now the Bura GR style Friendship khukuri's. When you look at the pix of thses you can see a straight section running from just in front of the bolster to the handle.
I am after a Full Curving Khukuri.
It will curve from the point to the butt cap in a very nice Full Arc.
I will probably do some more design work in order to get one that Uncle Bill will confirm to not go over 2 Lbs.
Or at least not more than 2 1/4 Lbs.
My 18" AK is just a tad over 2 Lbs and is very satisfactory and is a knife I wouldn't mind carrying all day.
I Love my GR and admire it so much that I want another one, but its not a knife I would want to carry very far due to its weight.
A person has to draw the line somewhere in the amount of weight they are willing to carry and I have always Loved Big knives.
Since I started buying khukuris my outlook on what a big knife is has changed a lot. I used to think that my CS Trailmaster was big.
I don't know yet if Uncle Bill will even consider this type of design as he has said in the past that the Full curving knives are much harder to make.
Then again it may be priced out of what I would be willing to pay. Of course since i will be a Custom design I would be willing to pay more for it than another similar knife that has the straighter handle.
Now for the Killer stuff and why it is gonna take me a while to finish the prototype fr the khukuri.
I am in the middle of building my Southern Straight Dance Outfit and almost everything is taking a back seat to that.
This is something that I have wanted to do since I was a very young boy and is the 1st opportunity that I have had to afford it. It costs an awful lot of money to be an Indin.
Some parts of it that I bought
cost a $1,000.00 just a few short years ago. Fortunately I didn't have to pay Near That much!!
I have just received the order I made for some supplies to finish my "bells" with. I am using deer toes as in the old way instead of the sliegh bells that almost everyone else uses.
I have never made a pair of moccasins from scratch before and I think that's gonna take me some time.
Be patient my friend. The Yvsa Special will come to us when it's supposed to.
I just hope that everyone else will like it as well as we will.
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Many thanks, bro. Are you going to be able to make a wood prototype?
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You betcha Bro.
This is one that Absolutely needs a prototype!!
There's a couple of ways to go with it. One is a narrower blade width wise and with a bit more drop. The prototypes willalso give me an idea of the handleing characteristics of each blade.
The AK Bowie balance was very close to the wooden model.
So does that give us some Hope of being able to get this manufactured?
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You betcha Bro.
This is one that Absolutely needs a prototype!!
There's a couple of ways to go with it. One is a narrower blade width wise and with a bit more drop. The prototypes willalso give me an idea of the handleing characteristics of each blade.
The AK Bowie balance was very close to the wooden model.
So does that give us some Hope of being able to get this manufactured?
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If this works, click and you'll see Yvsa's birthday card. ( Edit - hey, it does! )
http://www.link4u.com/bd2.htm
I told Yvsa that he had ten years on me ( I turn 50 in June ) but it didn't show (much). Happy birthday bro!
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OK, it's now later. They tell me the card didn't make it to delivery because of a server error. You'll have to see it on the link above. Oh well, this just gives everyone else a chance to see it anyway. VBEG
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http://www.link4u.com/bd2.htm
I told Yvsa that he had ten years on me ( I turn 50 in June ) but it didn't show (much). Happy birthday bro!
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OK, it's now later. They tell me the card didn't make it to delivery because of a server error. You'll have to see it on the link above. Oh well, this just gives everyone else a chance to see it anyway. VBEG
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Yvsa, it's because of the full curve that I really hope your planned khukuri makes it into production. I know that they're harder to make; but, to me, the full curve represents the essence of what a khukuri is all about. Good luck with the project; I look forward to following your progress.
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Thank you Bro.
I can start to see the plowed skin developing as I type this. Wee, actually it has been coming for some time, as well as the silver in the hair.
I should be a wealthy man with Silver in my hair, Gold in my teeth and lead in my @$$. hehehe
Okay Steven.
I wasn't sure everyone knew what I was after.
I do seem to recall that you did mention before that it was a Full Curving model.
I am like you in thinking that that's the way a "real" khukuri should be. I know better now though and that khukuris come in many shapes and sizes. The UBE is a good case in point.
I still feel that the old models that have the full arc has a mysticism that the newer models just can't quite capture. I really would like to have one to play around wth for a while to see if the khukuri actually feels like I believe it will.
In looking at several models of them I have noticed many different styles even in the FC models. Some have the blade dropping more at the handle where others are more of an arc from butt cap to point. I believe that would have a great deal to do with the handleing characteristics of even those old models.
I am thinking that the Full Arced blades would be easier to control.
What do you think about that?
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Thank you Bro.
I can start to see the plowed skin developing as I type this. Wee, actually it has been coming for some time, as well as the silver in the hair.
I should be a wealthy man with Silver in my hair, Gold in my teeth and lead in my @$$. hehehe
Okay Steven.
I wasn't sure everyone knew what I was after.
I do seem to recall that you did mention before that it was a Full Curving model.
I am like you in thinking that that's the way a "real" khukuri should be. I know better now though and that khukuris come in many shapes and sizes. The UBE is a good case in point.
I still feel that the old models that have the full arc has a mysticism that the newer models just can't quite capture. I really would like to have one to play around wth for a while to see if the khukuri actually feels like I believe it will.
In looking at several models of them I have noticed many different styles even in the FC models. Some have the blade dropping more at the handle where others are more of an arc from butt cap to point. I believe that would have a great deal to do with the handleing characteristics of even those old models.
I am thinking that the Full Arced blades would be easier to control.
What do you think about that?
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Yvsa, if you can make it in wood I think the kamis can make it in steel and come close. The sarkis will bitch about making the scabbard but they'll get it done.
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Sounds like you're duplicating those early khukuris we see from the pix Bill took at the museum in Kathmandu. I hope the kamis build these knives as they are very comfortable, unique and aesthetically pleasing.
YVSA, would it help or hinder if I sent you some pix of the old 'forward curved' knives I have? I don't have a scanner so I have no way to put them on the forum.
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YVSA, would it help or hinder if I sent you some pix of the old 'forward curved' knives I have? I don't have a scanner so I have no way to put them on the forum.
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Happy Birthday, Yvsa.
I'm a little late on this. By the way, both you and Rusty have ten years on me!
I'm a little late on this. By the way, both you and Rusty have ten years on me!
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Thanks John!!
That would be very helpful in trying to duplicate the very old khukuris. And you got it. That's exactly what I am trying to do.
I have noticed what appears to be a large difference in what I call the "drop" on the old knives.
The "drop" is the distance between the top edge of the spine and a straight ege layed across the edge to the bottom of the butt cap.
I have seen what appears to be some quite variable distances on the old khukuris.
One with a wider blade say about 3" and one like a Sirupati with 1 1/2" wide blade with the same amount of "drop" would be quite different in the amount o "drop."
In some of the paper models I have made that "drop" seems to have a lot of influence on how the khukuri will perform and also its balance.
John your thoughts on this has really encouraged me!!
I am trying to get everyones views on how wide a blade and suchso that I can compromise and perhaps design one that would appeal to all of us and not just me.
I much prefer the wider blades. I really don't want to go any narrower than 2 1/2 inches.
Howard:
Uhhhhh. I am missing something here. I have 10 years on Rusty and Rusty and me both have 10 years on you?
So does that make you 40?
I remember those days.
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Thanks John!!
That would be very helpful in trying to duplicate the very old khukuris. And you got it. That's exactly what I am trying to do.
I have noticed what appears to be a large difference in what I call the "drop" on the old knives.
The "drop" is the distance between the top edge of the spine and a straight ege layed across the edge to the bottom of the butt cap.
I have seen what appears to be some quite variable distances on the old khukuris.
One with a wider blade say about 3" and one like a Sirupati with 1 1/2" wide blade with the same amount of "drop" would be quite different in the amount o "drop."
In some of the paper models I have made that "drop" seems to have a lot of influence on how the khukuri will perform and also its balance.
John your thoughts on this has really encouraged me!!
I am trying to get everyones views on how wide a blade and suchso that I can compromise and perhaps design one that would appeal to all of us and not just me.
I much prefer the wider blades. I really don't want to go any narrower than 2 1/2 inches.
Howard:
Uhhhhh. I am missing something here. I have 10 years on Rusty and Rusty and me both have 10 years on you?
So does that make you 40?
I remember those days.
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Yvsa, apparently you and I are on the exact same brain frequency because, like you, I much prefer the wider blades. I freely admit that I don't know much about khuks, but the wider, fully curved knives seem to be more in keeping with the traditional khukuri style. I can't wait to see what you come up with!
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OH!!!
Thanks Everyone, for the Birthday Wishes!!!
I don't "feel" any different.
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OH!!!
Thanks Everyone, for the Birthday Wishes!!!
I don't "feel" any different.
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Yvsa,
You figured it out. Im just coming up on number 40.
Your blade seems very interesting. I would like to see it also when it comes into being.
I would like to see you in your regalia when it is complete also. I hope it is something you will be able to show.
You figured it out. Im just coming up on number 40.
Your blade seems very interesting. I would like to see it also when it comes into being.
I would like to see you in your regalia when it is complete also. I hope it is something you will be able to show.
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Happy Birthday Yvsa!!!
I may be a little premature here, but Uncle please put me on the list for one of Yvsa's Full Arc Specials. I have seen the magic he can work on steel, and I can already tell it will be something very special indeed!
Cheers for now,
QL.
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I may be a little premature here, but Uncle please put me on the list for one of Yvsa's Full Arc Specials. I have seen the magic he can work on steel, and I can already tell it will be something very special indeed!
Cheers for now,
QL.
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Thanks again guys!!
I turned 60 on my b'day.
Ifen I would a knowed I wuz gonna live this long I woulda took better care of myself.
When I get my outfit done I will be sure and send Uncle Bill some pix to post.
I can do this, if Uncle or Howard or anyone with a scanner would post the pix of the drawings I have cut out I would be glad to send a couple or three copies out to them for posting. That would give y'all an idea of what I am up too.
I have one each of a 16"+ a 17" and an 18" that look promising.
Let me know who to send them too and I will make a special trip to Kinkos for copies.
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Thanks again guys!!
I turned 60 on my b'day.
Ifen I would a knowed I wuz gonna live this long I woulda took better care of myself.
When I get my outfit done I will be sure and send Uncle Bill some pix to post.
I can do this, if Uncle or Howard or anyone with a scanner would post the pix of the drawings I have cut out I would be glad to send a couple or three copies out to them for posting. That would give y'all an idea of what I am up too.
I have one each of a 16"+ a 17" and an 18" that look promising.
Let me know who to send them too and I will make a special trip to Kinkos for copies.
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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
"Know your own bone, gnaw at it, bury it, unearth it again."
'Thoreau'
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